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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Withdrawn

Henri L'Estrange

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Studio portrait of L'Estrange demonstrating tightrope bicycle riding

Created/expanded by Wittylama (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  • - Article length (22,000 characters) and age (Dec 19) are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. Hook accepted on good faith for newspaper articles.--Doug Coldwell talk 13:35, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I have trouble finding a footnoted sentence in the article for the fact that he is "the only person to tightrope walk across Sydney harbour", i.e. no one has done this since. --PFHLai (talk) 09:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
  • That's a really good point! I'd not thought of that angle on the sentence. I'll go looking for something for that next week because I know I must have seen it somewhere - but it's hard to 'prove a negative' that no one else's done it. In the mean time, how about we change the hook from "the only" to "the first"? Wittylama 13:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Copyright/close paraphrase problems:
Example from Henri L'Estrange#Sydney Harbour crossing:
L'Estrange advised those wishing to see his performance to travel on his steamers as they were the only ones with permission to land passengers.
From http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/lestrange_henri:
L'Estrange advised those wishing to see his performance to travel on his steamers as they were the only ones with permission to land passengers.
Example from Henri L'Estrange#Sydney Harbour crossing:
Despite the criticism, L'Estrange performed at least once more at Middle Harbour, although crowds were down to a few hundred, requiring only four steamers to transport them.
From http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/lestrange_henri:
Despite the criticism, L'Estrange performed at least once more at Middle Harbour, although crowds were down to a few hundred, requiring only four steamers to transport them.
Article needs rewrite and complete check for additional copyright problems. --Allen3 talk 13:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
This is very interesting... and somewhat disconcerting... As you can see, the very last line of the page states that:
This Wikipedia article is substantially built upon the essay "L'Estrange, Henri" in the Dictionary of Sydney
written by Mark Dunn, 2011 and licensed under CC by-sa. Imported on 18 December 2011.
The Dictionary of Sydney uses CC-by-SA on some, but not all, of their articles and I've been importing and wikifying several of the freely licensed ones - with this being the latest. I am sure that I checked the licence compatibility of this particular one before I imported it. I'm SURE I did. However as you can now see the Dictionary of Sydney article does not have the CC licensing on it and the google cache doesn't show it either. I must be mad! I'm going to call them up (I used to work there so they know me) and check on this next week to make sure they didn't change it or something. If it was never freely-licensed in the first place (and I can't convince them to change) then I'll have to get it deleted and start from scratch. In the mean time, please consider this DYK nomination withdrawn. Wittylama 13:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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