Template:Did you know nominations/Guy Fort

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Guy Fort

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... that Brigadier General Guy Fort is the only American-born general officer to be executed by enemy forces? Source: Fallen in Battle: American General Officer Combat Fatalities from 1775 by Russell K. Brown, Greenwood Press, 1988, page 40. Additional source: "Entry for Fort, Guy O." in Biographical Dictionary of World War II Generals and Flag Officers by R. Manning Ancell with Christine M. Miller, Greenwood Press, 1996.

Created by SouthernNights (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 27 March 2017 (UTC).

Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and no copy-vio detected, mostly book sources. One issue is that there are two bits of the article which is not referenced (I've marked them with cn tags). This needs to be fixed.

The article's categorization is incomplete, although that isn't a DYK-preventing issue.

The hook is short enough, interesting, referenced to book sources. I wonder, though, if "the enemy" should be replaced with something along the lines of "enemy forces" or "opposing forces". "The enemy" sounds quite POV.

The nominator does not appear to ave any previous DYKs, so QPQ not required. No image with nomination, so no need for an image review. Manxruler (talk) 11:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I've made the changes and added the citations you requested. In particular, your suggestion to change "the enemy" to "enemy forces" was an excellent one. I'd used the original phrasing b/c that's how the first citation stated the info, but enemy forces is indeed more NPOV. I should also note that I actually have 10 previous DYKs, all of them from a number of years ago when I was more active on Wikipedia. However, I'm once again doing more Wikipedia work and have no problem with QPQ. Best,--SouthernNights (talk) 22:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

~~Could you also change the "enemy" wording in the hook?~~ (I initially missed that you had actually done that) I think it is important in the hook as well as in the article itself.

It is good you've provided further refs, but I don't really think "http://ethnicelebs.com" is reliable. It seems to be a hobby site, where anyone can add a celebrity.

I couldn't see those previous DYKs of yours when first reviewing, but I'm glad you're open about needing to do a QPQ.

Have another look at the Julie Vega bit (I would consider just removing it from the article, if it can't be reliably sourced), ~~fix the "enemy" in the hook,~~ and provide a QPQ. Then we should be good to go. Manxruler (talk) 23:15, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

I've reviewed two other DYKs here and here. I also removed the Julie Vega info. --SouthernNights (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

QPQ is good then. The article still claims that he had "Fort had two sons and a daughter.", without a ref. According to Find a Grave he only had two children. Ref is needed for his children. Manxruler (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I removed the info on his children.--SouthernNights (talk) 12:31, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

We're good to go, then. By the way, it's sufficient to leave messages here, we don't need duplicate messages on our talk pages. Manxruler (talk) 13:04, 30 March 2017 (UTC)