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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Pi (talk) 21:06, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Gunjan Saxena

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Converted from a redirect by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 10:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC).

  • starting review
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - not yet
Overall: QPQ in process, please clarify if there is copyvio with the imalayalee link above. the hook is good but i wonder if it should specify that she was the only female Indian combatant (even if the sources do not) since there may have been female Pakistani combatants also. last, since there is Gunjan Saxena: The Kargil Girl i wonder if you would like to try an alternative hook mentioning the film (the film title can be piped of course) Mujinga (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

The copyvio link is a case of someone copying from Wikipedia. Although the dates match, with timing not given in the link, all I can say is I didn't blatantly copy paste a whole paragraph into Wikipedia and add citations which match afterwards. Wouldn't I have got a copyvio warning or something. Also, I know the DYK process reasonably well now; (having been part of over 35 DYK noms and numerous reviews) that there is a copyvio check. Not sure how else to explain this. DTM (talk) 11:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
You can also see the edit history of the page. It took me time to write that paragraph. Lines which are referenced to a number of different reliable sources. DTM (talk) 11:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Mujinga, I added Indian to the hook as per your suggestion. But isn't the mention of the Indian Air Force enough. Now "Indian" is used two times. DTM (talk) 11:12, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
QPQ done. DTM (talk) 13:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
ALT1... that Gunjan Saxena, the only Indian woman in the Kargil War, is also known as The Kargil Girl?
ALT2... that the only Indian lady in the Kargil War was The Kargil Girl?
Is something like this (ALT1/2) what you had in mind? DTM (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi talk, great thanks for the clarification on the copyvio and for supplying the QPQ. We just need to finetune the hooks now. ALT0: Hmm yes see what you mean about 2x"Indian" .. but this could be avoided by saying the "only woman from the Indian Armed Forces" or something, could you rephrase? ALT1 is great but now we have repetition of Kargil, could you rephrase to lose one? A suggestion would be to supply the film name as film. Not so keen on "lady" in ALT2, which also has the Kargil repetition. Mujinga (talk) 11:30, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
ALT0.1... that the only woman from the Indian Armed Forces to be involved in the Kargil War was Gunjan Saxena? Meet Flying Officer Gunjan Saxena, India’s only woman warrior in the Kargil war
ALT3... that Gunjan Saxena is also known as the Kargil Girl?
ALT4... that Gunjan Saxena was the first woman Indian Air Force officer to go to war? Gunjan Saxena, the first woman IAF officer to go to war
@Mujinga: Here are the alts which seem alright - ALT0 , ALT0.1, ALT3, ALT4? What do you say? Please cut whichever ones you want for clarity. DTM (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
@DiplomatTesterMan: Nice work those new ALTs are great! I'll strike ALT0 since ALT0.1 improves it, and strike ALT3 since ALT0.1 and ALT4 are both splendid options. Good to go. Mujinga (talk) 18:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
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