Template:Did you know nominations/Grey jay
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by HalfGig talk 13:15, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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Grey jay
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Grey jay nesting in late winter
- ... that the grey jay builds its nests in late winter, while snow is still deep in the forest? Article text: "Breeding grey jays build nests and lay eggs in March or even February, when snow is deep in the boreal forest." Sources: offline citations)
- ALT1:... that a young grey jay stays with its parents to help care for the next season's fledglings? Sources: several, including offline sources. Examples: "We studied this phenomenon in the Gray Jay (Perisoreus canadensis), a species in which nonbreeders are excluded from the nest area by parental hostility and begin to feed young only during the fledgling period." [1]; "Breeding pairs of Gray Jays (Perisoreus canadensis) in Quebec and Ontario were accompanied in the autumn significantly more often by one nonbreeder, and less often by none or two, than expected from initial brood size frequencies." [2]
- ALT2:... that the grey jay is also known as whisky jack, a name derived from Wisakedjak, a character in North American indigenous mythology? Sources: various; examples: "Wisakedjak is the benevolent culture hero of the Cree tribe, ... a trickster character whose adventures are often humorous." [3]; "Another familiar name, “whiskey-jack”, was taken from Wiskedjak, Wisagatcak, Wisekejack, or other variations of a word used in the Algonquian family of aboriginal languages of eastern Canada to designate a mischievous, transforming spirit who liked to play tricks on people." [4]
- Reviewed: Acer whitebirdense
- Comment: other images may suit the alternate hooks if they are chosen, I suggest this for ALT1 or this for ALT2. All of these images have the same peculiar license but I believe it is compatible with DYK: they are not fair use and all are on Commons. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Ivanvector (talk) and Casliber (talk). Nominated by Ivanvector (talk) at 15:33, 21 January 2017 (UTC).
This is a newly-promoted GA and was nominated in the correct time scale. I think the most interesting hook is ALT0, but the image is not easy to interpret at thumbnail size, though most impressive when enlarged. The article is neutral but Earwig's copyvio test was rather worrying - [5]. I would suggest ALT0a as sounding more natural. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:35, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- ALT0a ... that the grey jay (pictured) builds its nests in late winter, while the forest is still deep in snow?
- I think ALT0a is fine. The image is not too clear at thumbnail size, but it would be a challenge depict a white and light-gray coloured bird nesting in the snow in any case, and it's a pretty good image at size. Either of the alternate images would be clearer at thumbnail size but don't depict the bird nesting in winter. On the balance, my preference is to stick with the winter nesting image. The site that is scoring so highly on the copyvio test is a USDA public domain source, which is noted in the article's references section. The next source which scores 8.3% is just matching the long title of a well-known ornithological reference. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Good, I am glad about that, it had me worried. Lets go for ALT0a with the nest image, but whether or not the image is actually used will depend on the promoter. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think ALT0a is fine. The image is not too clear at thumbnail size, but it would be a challenge depict a white and light-gray coloured bird nesting in the snow in any case, and it's a pretty good image at size. Either of the alternate images would be clearer at thumbnail size but don't depict the bird nesting in winter. On the balance, my preference is to stick with the winter nesting image. The site that is scoring so highly on the copyvio test is a USDA public domain source, which is noted in the article's references section. The next source which scores 8.3% is just matching the long title of a well-known ornithological reference. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
