Template:Did you know nominations/Gowanus Batcave
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
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Gowanus Batcave
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- ... that the Gowanus Batcave is an abandoned power station in Brooklyn that became a popular site for underground parties, concerts, graffiti, and squatters in the early 2000s?
- Reviewed: Canarsie, Brooklyn
- Comment: Struggling to word the hook at the moment. Additional suggestions welcome. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Created by Rhododendrites (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC).
- I love the idea of an April Fool's DYK, a là "... that the Batcave is a popular site for parties?," and so I'll review this in a few hours if no one else beats me to it. ~ Maltrópa loquace 16:45, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Maltrópa: the general idea there works for me. However it's not quite correct that it "is" a popular site for parties. It's no longer abandoned/unoccupied. It was purchased in the last few years by a nonprofit that increased security while developing its interior. No more parties. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:04, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
The article's long enough, new enough and orthodox enough, QPQ has been done and the hook is interesting and well-formatted (though, if you mention Brooklyn, wikilink it?). I've some very minor complaints, some of which I've corrected myself; the others are: a) "It sat abandoned since the mid-20th century" — if it's no longer abandoned, maybe change 'since' to 'from'? b) "The building was designed..." and the line after it could share a citation. c) Nitpicky, but if you're going to include the dimensions in feet and inches (is that more correct here than feet and decimals?), I'd suggest converting to metres in brackets. I realise that I'm a European reader on what is clearly an American topic, but it seems a bit more Wiki to me to have both. d) Some mention of the apparently severe soil and other pollution might not go amiss, and refs 4 and 10 could fill that out. As to the hook, it's the principle I like, not so much the verb tense. "until recently," "in the late 2000s," or even the Bruce Wayne-vibing "that, before being bought by a billionaire, the Batcave..." (source on "billionaire"). Hook one is good to go on its own merits, though, so I'm approving this.~ Maltrópa loquace 12:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
- Friendly ping @Rhododendrites: to see whether you've seen this or have any further thoughts on my suggestions for an ALT1. There are seven articles approved and one awaiting review for 1 April's eight slots, so trying for a specifically Batman Batcave hook that day might be a bit ambitious. However, Batman's first publication was apparently 30 March so you might consider holding it until then. I might propose a hook along those Batman lines and send it back for review. Up to you? ~ Maltrópa loquace 10:56, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Maltrópa: Thanks for the ping. These are good suggestions. I went ahead and did all but the last one (environmental information). I've seen that in a couple places, too, but don't have time to dig in at the moment. As it's not connected to the hook and not a policy issue, however, that doesn't seem like something that needs to be addressed at DYK (and I take your DYKtick as agreeing with that). :) As for the hook, I've added a couple links to the original and added a date for clarity. That said, I don't mind if you would like to steer this towards an April Fools version. I don't think billionaire works, though, since the Business Insider source only calls him a billionaire via the headline and lists a source which doesn't actually verify as much (and a quick search for sources doesn't turn up confirmation elsewhere). Could also riff on it having been a place of "power" in the past... I don't feel very strongly about it, though, so go with your gut. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:28, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Batcave became a popular venue for underground parties and concerts in the early 2000s?
I'm suggesting this as an ALT1, so, and will be relisting it for a second reviewer to give it a look-over. I would love to see it on April Fool's but with nine hooks now being held for that day I think the best shot is either running it on 30 March, as mentioned above, or a day before/after April Fool's so that at least part of the world sees it on their April Fool's day. ~ Maltrópa loquace 00:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with Maltrópa that this nomination meets DYK requirements with regard to length, newness, hook facts, neutrality and absence of copyvios. This nomination is good to go with either hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: my guess is that we'll be running at least two sets on April Fools' Day, so there's no reason at all not to include this nomination for that date. I'll be moving it there. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:18, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
