Template:Did you know nominations/Gertrud Förstel

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Gertrude Förstel

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Gertrude Förstel in 1902

... that Gertrude Förstel (pictured) was Sophie when Der Rosenkavalier was first performed in Vienna, and sang in the premieres of Tiefland and Mahler's Eighth Symphony? Source: [1]

Reviewed: Bagel and cream cheese
Comment: I'll have to get the article moved to match the name in the better sources. It's different (Gertrud) in the German Wikipedia and below the image (but not on it), - confusing.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC).

Article moved to Gertrude Förstel per the above. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Prose length checks out, as does age. The text contains a few redlinks, which should be unlinked (unless/until you create articles for them). The article also relies pretty heavily on just two sources -- this isn't a hard requirement, but could you perhaps look for some more? e.g. I found this one: http://epub.oeaw.ac.at/oebl/oebl_F/Foerstel_Gertrude_1880_1950.xml -Kieran (talk) 16:46, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Redlinks are good, and the source is considered the bible on singers. The one you found supports it, and others will support it, or even be derived from it (such as Bayreuth Festival). I have been asked by project opera to write an article on a singer with Kutsch/Riemens as the only source. Rather than looking for more sources, I fill the red links, one a day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

example of a derived book entry, and another brief listing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work! I'm accepting on good faith that this is the standard for historic singer articles. Also, I've removed the redlinks from the article, but made a note of them on the article talk page so you can find them as you fill them out. -Kieran (talk) 22:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)