Template:Did you know nominations/George Meany

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The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 18:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

George Meany

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... that, in supporting peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War and opposing a U.S. withdrawal, AFL–CIO President George Meany (pictured) stated that "in Vietnam the AFL–CIO is neither hawk nor dove nor chicken"?

Reviewed: Girls' games and toys
Comment: DYK tool shows fivefold expansion beginning 18 November (by Cullen328). Hook has 192 characters, less than the 200 character limit. The quote is in newspaper titles, so this is an easy DYK to review.

Created/expanded by Cullen328 (talk), Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 23:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Alternative
- ... that AFL–CIO President George Meany (pictured) expelled the Teamsters Union and Jimmy Hoffa from the AFL–CIO because of concerns about organized crime?

Length, history and references verified. Glad to see we've expanded this article, and so well.

I do, however, think we could use a catchier hook ... the Vietnam quote is well-known already, and it's not really that surprising to anyone today that he kicked the Teamsters out of the AFL-CIO. Instead, I suggest:

ALT2:

... that future AFL-CIO leader George Meany did not know his first name was really William until he got his work permit as a teenager?

That's not widely known ... and genuinely interesting. Daniel Case (talk) 05:43, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Your hook is most interesting for informed readers. The last time I wrote AFL-CIO at DYK, the reviewer chastised me for using an esoteric acronym! O tempes, o mores. For the general public, the previous hooks are better, I think. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:52, 23 November 2011 (UTC)