Template:Did you know nominations/Genesis Motors
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 4meter4 (talk) 18:52, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
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Genesis Motors
[edit]- ... that, according to a Reuters analyst, Hyundai launched Genesis Motors to target "fat profit margins from high-end motorists to help it reverse out of a protracted earnings slide"?
Created by Fauzan (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC).
- New enough. Long enough. Well written. Well cited for the most part. Needs a couple of inline citations--I added citation needed tags in the article. Almost GTG. Hybernator (talk) 20:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Source issues mentioned by Hybernator have been resolved. This article is "new enough" (see the small text below), large enough (1800K), neutral, cited, and free of copyright violations per the Earwig tool. The hook is short enough and cited, although I had to add "according to a Reuters analyst" because the quote is that writer's opinion/observation. The nominator has only one DYK credit, so is exempt from QPQ. No image to review. This is good to go. The timing of this nomination was, it appears, a bit off. If the article was completed on the 5th, it should have been nominated by the 12th (seven days), with the 15th (ten days) being the limit. However, both because it was continually worked on for the rest of November, and because there's really no excuse for how long it took for this entry to be reviewed, I'm going to go ahead and say that the nomination date should be November 24, and that there isn't a time issue. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:28, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- I count four references that are nothing but bare URLs, which is not allowed at DYK (see WP:DYKSG#D3 for details). Since the year only has 20 days to go, I'm leery of future statements like "There will be two sedans by the end of 2015". There's also a conflict between the History and Future plans section: the former says that the Genesis was later rebranded as the G80, while the Future plans section says it will be rebranded as the G80. This also needs to be addressed. None of this should be difficult, but it needs to be done. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:28, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- The "history" section is mostly copied from the old article Hyundai Genesis. I don't think the article is long enough if that's taken out. -Zanhe (talk) 02:26, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- Zanhe, the way copied pre-existing text works for DYK is that it must be expanded 5x (see WP:DYKSG#A5). By my count, there's a bit under 350 prose characters copied—the original text was modified for its new home, and only the unmodified parts count as copied—meaning the article would need to be 1750 prose characters or more, and it's currently 1880 according to DYKcheck. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the discrepancy between History and Future was never resolved, and now that it is 2016, either there are now two sedans or not, but the article doesn't say. If someone comes along to fix this before the nomination closes, please let us know, but as matters stand, this will not be running on DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- I will be working on it tomorrow, was busy in the last month. Fauzan✆ talk✉ mail 19:01, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Good to know, Fauzan; glad you have time now. I'm superseding the "X" icon so the nomination isn't rejected before you've had a chance to update the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- Fauzan, it's been a week. How soon do you think you'll have it ready? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:18, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
- Good to know, Fauzan; glad you have time now. I'm superseding the "X" icon so the nomination isn't rejected before you've had a chance to update the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- I will be working on it tomorrow, was busy in the last month. Fauzan✆ talk✉ mail 19:01, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the discrepancy between History and Future was never resolved, and now that it is 2016, either there are now two sedans or not, but the article doesn't say. If someone comes along to fix this before the nomination closes, please let us know, but as matters stand, this will not be running on DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- Zanhe, the way copied pre-existing text works for DYK is that it must be expanded 5x (see WP:DYKSG#A5). By my count, there's a bit under 350 prose characters copied—the original text was modified for its new home, and only the unmodified parts count as copied—meaning the article would need to be 1750 prose characters or more, and it's currently 1880 according to DYKcheck. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- The "history" section is mostly copied from the old article Hyundai Genesis. I don't think the article is long enough if that's taken out. -Zanhe (talk) 02:26, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed to check revised article. (Since I ended up doing the bulk of the revisions, it should be someone else.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- URL references have been converted to proper format. As Zanhe explained, the copied text has been expanded five-fold. I've followed up on the issue of two sedans being released in history section. It looks like there is some uncertainty over when the second will be released, but the article is covered by putting in future section and simply stating "soon". Jolly Ω Janner 22:01, 15 January 2016 (UTC)