Template:Did you know nominations/Gabriele Schnaut

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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 21:10, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Gabriele Schnaut

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~~... that Gabriele Schnaut recorded alto parts in Bach cantatas in the 1970s, two mezzo parts in the Jahrhundertring in 1980, sang Isolde in 1985 and Turandot in 2002?~~

Reviewed: Art Nouveau furniture

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC).

Article is new enough, long enough, adequately referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. However, there are some issues with citing article refs and hook refs. Regarding the article, the last 2 paragraphs under Career have no sources (per D2). Regarding the hook, there needs to be a citation next to the hook facts for "two mezzo parts in the Jahrhundertring in 1980" and "Turandot in 2002". Yoninah (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Both are cited in the recording section, but I can duplicate. An IP added 2014 (one paragraph) after the nominationm what can we do? - No rush, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

One step further: the 2014 addition are now on the talk, and a doubled a ref. I don't want to explain in the article that Waltraute and 2nd Norne are mezzo parts, - boring for opera goers, not too interesting for others (this list has it), - should we name the parts instead? Do you have a suggestion to word that #2 and #4 are DVDs of festival performances, Bayreuth and Salzburg?

ALT1: ... that Gabriele Schnaut recorded alto parts in Bach cantatas in the 1970s, appeared as Waltraute and Second Norne in the Jahrhundertring film in 1980, as Isolde in 1985, and as Turandot in 2002? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I added the parts from the source. All the hook cites are in place now. Regarding the uncited paragraph, is this in the German Wikipedia, or somewhere else? If in the German Wikipedia, perhaps you could add "parts of this article taken from German Wikipedia" at the bottom of the page (not the talk page). If somewhere else, perhaps you should just remove it. Yoninah (talk) 18:15, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld started the translation from the German Wikipedia, Voceditenore added "translated" to the talk. Is there a guideline that I don't know to have it in the article? - Please wait a bit longer, I will find refs. I nominated yesterday because I knew I would not have time today and perhaps tomorrow. Knowing that, I wouldn't even have started the article at this point, it came as a surprise ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I have now provided references for the final paragraph lacking them (Schnaut having been made a Kammersängerin and being a recipient of the Bavarian Order of Merit). Note that I had removed the "upcoming performances" paragraph from the article to the talk page because of its inappropriateness and explained why there. It had nothing to do with references (or lack thereof). Also, the proper way to attribute an interwiki translation is via the template {{translated page}} on the talk page, not in the article itself, where it is not only an inappropriate self-reference but utterly useless as a "source" since Wikipedia cannot reference itself. Voceditenore (talk) 08:36, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying and help! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

It's a much better article now with all your additions. I'm sorry; I didn't realize you were still working on it when I reviewed it. All paragraphs now have inline citations. Hook refs are all verified (even if the article is in German, the roles are written in English letters, so I can verify them). ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2013 (UTC)