The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:17, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
... that Günther Lützow(pictured) was the second fighter pilot to claim 100 aerial victories in World War II?
ALT1:... that Günther Lützow(pictured), a fighter pilot credited with over 100 aerial victories, was posted missing in action following combat on 24 April 1945?
ALT2:... that on 24 October 1941, Günther Lützow(pictured) became the second fighter pilot to claim 100 aerial victories in World War II?
I know it seems as though I am being super-picky, but this is such an admirable piece of work I should like to see any imperfections exorcised. I found no other core criteria problems, given AGF for sources. I hope this article will be "pushed" to Featured Article. For this nom, it should not take much to address my concerns and be GTG.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Is there anything for me to do here? Cheers MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Pardon me if I was unclear here, Mr. Bee, but I thought you would like a chance to deal with those paraphrases before the article went DYK. Please note, that as part of AGF, that I assume these paraphrases are inadvertent echoes of research.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay thanks, I reworded it slightly, commenting on the first two links (Günther Lützow Explained and Project Gutenberg), it is a bit of a "who was first" problem. I believe these two links point to derivatives of an earlier version of the article I wrote here on Wikipedia. Regarding "Lützow was born on 4 September 1912 in Kiel," have a look at Anthony McAuliffe or Douglas MacArthur, they all use phrases like "X was born on Y in/at Z". Do you have a suggestion on how to rephrase? MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:24, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
As I remarked above, not much wiggle room on that particular rephrasing. I was hoping you were more ingenious than I and could rewrite it. Never mind. To take care of the technicalities, ALT2 is approved as a new hook, the paraphrasing issue is addressed, and this is GTG.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Just a quick follow-up note: Project Gutenberg and "Everything Explained" are both indeed known mirrors of the content here, and both provide clear credit to the Wikipedia article. Kuru(talk) 17:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
The experienced and diligent Mister Bee is to be congratulated on such a mighty effort for Good Article honors. I checked core criteria of the nomination, and noted the following. Hook ALT0 is great; hook ALT1 not so interesting. In my opinion, mention of the early date at which he scored his 100th victory would be of interest, if editor should care to write ALT2. More problematic are the probably inadvertently copied phrases I found on checking for paraphrasing. I looked at the GA nom process, and could not figure out how they checked for paraphrasing, etc. However, I noted the below duplicated phrases. "Lützow became known as a central figure" can also be read at http://everything.explained.today/G%C3%BCnther_L%C3%BCtzow/ and http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/gunther_lutzow. "Lützow was born on 4 September 1912 in Kiel," is congruent a statement at http://www.luftwaffe.cz/lutzow.html or https://books.google.com/books?id=d4vIp-yLuYsC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=L%C3%BCtzow+was+born+on+4+September+1912+in+Kiel,&source=bl&ots=OExUuG_tVD&sig=uA_i_aYKuzKuU5GYj-OtqJgm0vY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2n4DV6tvJAhVS4mMKHTm8CBAQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q=L%C3%BCtzow%20was%20born%20on%204%20September%201912%20in%20Kiel%2C&f=false. (Admittedly, there isn't much wiggle room for paraphrase in the latter example.) A less inept editor might want to check for further paraphrase using script.
As I remarked above, not much wiggle room on that particular rephrasing. I was hoping you were more ingenious than I and could rewrite it. Never mind. To take care of the technicalities, ALT2 is approved as a new hook, the paraphrasing issue is addressed, and this is GTG.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)