Template:Did you know nominations/Franklin Flores
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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Franklin Flores
... that despite suffering a late-campaign scandal involving a traffic collision, Franklin Flores went on to win his parliamentary race with over eighty percent of the vote?Source: ERBOL and "Romero Ballivián 2018, p. 229"- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cursed to Golf
- Comment: Hook could use some work; open to suggestions.
Created by Krisgabwoosh (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC).
I'm not sure if I'll give this a full review, but for now I have some reservations about the hook. To me it seems to unduly focus on a negative aspect of his life (the scandal), which could make it a BLP violation. Do you have any other possible hook suggestions that don't focus on the scandal? The hook makes it seem like he's a bad guy even if that wasn't the hook's intent. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed, which is why I included the comment. I was trying to go for something related to the implications of his landslide victory (See: Final sentence in paragraph I of "Chamber of Deputies"). However, I had some difficulty finding the wording. Any alt suggestions? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not actually sure. Looking at the article, him declaring victory early in the first round of his gubernatorial campaign, only for it to turn out he needed a run-off (which he lost) could work as a hook. However, given how common it is to declare early victory in elections and such political implications, I'm not sure if it's kosher to have a hook about that right now. Otherwise I'm not seeing much else that could be used in the article, especially since the coverage of his post-electoral defeat career is rather negative. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Fair. I've got one alt here that may work, but if not, we may just have to call it quits on this one I'm afraid. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Franklin Flores' landslide victory in a rural constituency demonstrated his party's ability to win the rural vote "regardless of the candidates nominated"?
- Eh, not really sure about the hook. It's rather on the pedestrian side in my opinion, but perhaps it can still be improved. Maybe Sammi Brie can provide some input? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- What about tightening it up a bit... It's not bad mid-set material. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that Franklin Flores's landslide victory demonstrated his party's ability to win the rural vote "regardless of the candidates nominated"?
- I included "in a rural constituency" to avoid possible confusion with his gubernatorial run. However, if everyone agrees that that detail is unnecessary, then I think this hook is about as good as it gets. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Bolivia Deputy Franklin Flores attempted to reject the resignation of President Evo Morales?theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:17, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
The article itself meets requirements and a QPQ is done. No close paraphrasing was found. Owing to issues with both the original hook and ALT1 I've struck both, leaving only ALT1a and ALT2 for consideration. ALT1a is cited to an offline source so AGF. ALT2 appears to be cited to Spanish language sources; the relevant footnote is near the end of the paragraph rather than the sentence explicitly stating his attempted rejection, so that will need to be addressed if ALT2 is to be approved. I don't think I'm the best person here to make a final decision about the interestingness of either hook (though for what it's worth I think ALT2 is a more interesting fact than ALT1a), so I'll leave the final decision to another reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
approving ALT1a. I've struck ALT2 as the "attempted to reject" construction sounds awkward to me, and ALT1a flows much butter to my ear. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
