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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Foreign policy of Narendra Modi

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Created by Lihaas (talk), Dharmadhyaksha (talk), M.soumen (talk). Nominated at 08:19, 22 June 2014 (UTC).

Dull hook, unless there's some context we're not getting (i.e., the king and PM having a history of hating India and/or Modi, or no previous Indian PM making their first foreign visit to Bhutan). Or something like that. Daniel Case (talk) 23:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Then what do you suggest? that all SAARC members came for his inauguration as a first? Better to suggest something vs. complainingLihaas (talk) 12:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Well ... that's a start. If you wrote the article, you are probably better positioned to propose a newer, catchier hook than me. Daniel Case (talk) 18:53, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that all member states of the regional body SAARC attended the inauguration of Narendra Modi marking his foreign policy priorities....? Lihaas (talk) 04:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Lihaas, the ALT1 hook is problematic for a number of reasons: it doesn't read well, the article doesn't say "all member states" of SAARC, and there's nothing in the article to connect them (and SAARC) explicitly to his foreign policy except an unsourced statement in the intro. The article also needs copyediting, and there are many bare urls in the sourcing that need fixing. The article was nominated when still new, and is long enough. I have not checked for neutrality or close paraphrasing. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
@Lihaas: If the article is edited further to include Modi's upcoming Nepal visit, there are some possible hooks in it. Check this [1], [2]. I will edit it if I get time tomm. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
  • @Lihaas: @Schwede66: @Daniel Case: @BlueMoonset: Per above comment, I have now edited the article to include info about Nepal. Have done copyediting and fixed bare urls issue. Have following alternatives proposed. In case in due course the hook is being promoted post Modi's scheduled Nepal visit on 3-4th Aug, we can convert the tense in the hook and the article. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that following his foreign policies, Narendra Modi paid an official visit to Nepal, 17 years post the previous Indian Prime Minister's visit?
ALT3 ... that following his foreign policies, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi made an official visit to Nepal and became the first foreign leader to address the Parliament of Nepal?
ALT3 looks good. and thanks.Lihaas (talk) 00:22, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
ALTs and article updated for tense change post Modi's Nepal visit. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
ALT4 ...that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry visited India to lobby for support against Russian sanctions but was rebuffed by the new Modi government
Maybe more [globally] topical..Lihaas (talk) 00:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
But this ALT4 doesn't give the article's name. WP:Piped links are to be avoided. Also the whole article (or NaMO's policy) is not about rebuffing Kerry. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:14, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Its not about rebuffing but the hook is more enticing. Changed blurb and leave it to the posting admin. (btw- there was a sudden SURGE in page views yesterday?)Lihaas (talk) 10:42, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure... let them decide. (Page views must have surged cause Google's first result of "Modi Nepal wiki" is this page.) §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Fame at last ;)
but for gods sake, this is the 2nd oldest AND fully ready. .post it alreadyLihaas (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Its "the oldest" now. Maybe editors are thinking we both are reviewing it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

The article has been copyedited. Now a new review is required. --Skr15081997 (talk) 04:19, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Skr15081997! Thanks for the copyedit. How about you reviewing it now? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
The article meets the length and age criteria. Written in dispassionate tone, this article uses at least one inline citation per para. No plagiarism detected. Hook fact checks out with ref. 27 and 28. QPQ done. Good to go with ALT3.--Skr15081997 (talk) 07:06, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, I don't understand what is being conveyed by "that following his foreign policies" in ALT3. Is this the focus of his policy alluded to in the lede, specific initiatives, or is "following" a matter of chronological or other order? The hook needs to be more clearly worded. Here's a suggested alternative:
New reviewer needed for ALT5; ALT3 has been struck. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Isn't "to pursue" means "to follow"? And why do we need a new reviewer when the change is just rephrasing of the hook? Don't prepping admins many a times make changes to the hook directly in the prep area? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:28, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Actually, any non-involved reviewer can check the hook—I'd definitely want a confirmation that the revised phrasing is still supported by the article and its sources—but I can't review it myself. And the two verbs are not identical, nor are they used here in similar fashion. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Anyways.....!!! While we are at it, I would propose 6th ALT now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:05, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

ALT5/6 are supported by inline reference. I'm relying on Skr15081997's review above for length, "newness", and plagiarism detection. The hook as stated is more wordy than it needs to be; I recommend the following, but any of ALT5/6/7 are acceptable; they all reference the same fact and only differ in wording:

Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 07:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Lets finish this up, its been doen to death and corrected and jsut sitting and waiting.Lihaas (talk) 11:27, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure a slight wording change doesn't activate a need for a new review. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 19:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Or, if the nomination closer really wants to be pedantic about it, they can just use ALT5 or ALT6, which have been written by others and approved by me. I don't know how things work here now, since I've largely been on hiatus from DYK for the last 2 years or so, but these sort of changes used to be made by the closing admin or even in the prep area without further review.
In any case, I'm reiterating the "pass" roundel, since ALT5 and ALT6 are ready to go, and the closing admin can decide whether ALT7 is eligible. Or someone else can take two seconds to look up the same source that Skr15081997 and I already have. In any case, there is no reason for the close of this nomination to be delayed for any further amount of time.
per above. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 05:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
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