Template:Did you know nominations/Flemingston

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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 20:23, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Flemingston

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• ... that the influential Welsh antiquarian, poet, collector, and literary forger Iolo Morganwg (Edward Williams) was a native of Flemingston?

Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed Roto Broil♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

• I don't understand why I care. Is it odd that he'd be from this place? Also needs copyediting.Secretlondon (talk) 22:58, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

• New enough, long enough, well referenced. However, the article seems cobbled together, with a lot of direct and indirect quoting of the main source, making it read more like a series of notes taken in a library than an encyclopedic article. Could you try to avoid quoting or close-paraphrasing the source as much as possible?
• The two block quotes in the History section are out of place, and are very hard to read, too. Please write the History section as you would for any other location: the date of founding, reason for name, size of population and early description, etc., all in your own language, and cite the sources as references.
• All the hook description about who Edward Williams is does not appear in this article. Perhaps you can draw something interesting out of the History section, once you render it into modern English. :) Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree, but I thought it was interesting to quote what was said of it in the gazeteers.. Article does mention Iolo Morganwg (Edward Williams), but agreed its not an interesting hook..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• Copyedited; and here's ALT1: ... that the poet Iolo Morganwg of Flemingston learned to read by watching his father cut inscriptions on gravestones? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

• Well, that's a big improvement! Two things: Do you have a cite for the last paragraph under History and the last line under Geography? (Re the latter, I know not everything has to be cited, but as these are specific numbers, they should be cited.) The new hook is fantastic. However, it is quoted verbatim from the source. Could you tweak it a bit? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:20, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

• I made the suggested ref improvements and here's ALT2: ... that the poet Iolo Morganwg of Flemingston learned to read by watching his father carve words on tombstones? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:25, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

• Excellent. I changed "headstones" to "tombstones" for a little more dramatic punch. Hook ref verified. AKT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)