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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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Flag of the British South Africa Company

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Flag of the BSAC
Flag of the BSAC
  • Reviewed: Timothy Weah
  • Comment: I'd like to request that we use the flag.

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 09:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC).

  • New enough and long enough, well cited, neutrally written, no copyvio found. The online reference says "The BSA Company's own flag had not been received from England...", and at the time "the UK" meant Great Britain and Ireland together and indeed is a term hardly ever used until much later, so I have taken the liberty of changing the hook to say England. Moonraker (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I have returned this nomination from q5 as the hook can't be confirmed from the supplied source, which doesn't say the flag "took two years to arrive in Rhodesia from England". Gatoclass (talk) 13:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
    • @Gatoclass: It does where it says that the Union Jack was raised in 1890 as the BSAC flag hadn't arrived and it was only raised for the first time in 1892. That is two years of waiting. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:04, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
The C of E, just to reply quickly to this, Rhodes set out in July 1890 and the flag was raised in 1892 - that might only be 18 months. Also, just because it wasn't "raised" until 1892 doesn't necessarily mean it took all that time to arrive - it might have just remained unpacked for a while. Gatoclass (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
*@Gatoclass: ALT1 ... that it took two years for the Flag of the British South Africa Company (pictured) to be raised over the newly founded Rhodesia? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
The C of E: that just makes it sound as if they were really slow flag raisers. I think you'll have to do better than that! Gatoclass (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: ALT1 ... that it took two years for the Flag of the British South Africa Company (pictured) to be used in the newly founded Rhodesia? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 22:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Hmmm ... better, but still not quite there IMO. Perhaps I will take a closer look at the article and see if I can find an angle somewhere. It will have to wait until tomorrow though as I am about to log off. Gatoclass (talk) 23:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: ? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
The C of E, I have a heavy workload trying to keep the sets verified during the 12-hour cycle and just haven't found time to get back to this. There are a number of other nominations I had to pull which I haven't found time to get back to yet as well. I'm afraid this one will probably have to wait until we go back to a 24-hour cycle - probably in a few days - when I have a bit more time. Gatoclass (talk) 06:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
(The C of E here), @Gatoclass: do you have any further thoughts on this? The Royal C (talk) 05:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Having had time to take a closer look at the sources, it seems they contradict one another with regard to the time the flag was first used. So here's a suggested alt:

I usually return a hook to the image slot if I pulled it from there The C of E but as it's my proposed hook, and we have a shortage of approved hooks right now, I can't guarantee it will happen in this case as it will be up to the set builder. Gatoclass (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
  • long enough, new enough when nominated, well cited, neutrally written, and still no copyvio found. This tick is for the ALT2 hook: the online reference it relies on says there were four different versions of the company flag, which supports Gatoclass's "a number of". The image of the flag seems to be suitably licensed. Moonraker (talk) 00:35, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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