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Round symbols for illustrating comments about the DYK nomination The following is an archived discussion of Female academic pioneers from the 19th century's DYK nomination. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page; such as this archived nomination"s (talk) page, the nominated article's (talk) page, or the Did you knowDYK comment symbol (talk) page. Unless there is consensus to re-open the archived discussion here. No further edits should be made to this page. See the talk page guidelines for (more) information.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC).

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Dagny Bang, Kristine Munch, Louise Isachsen, Helga Eng, Rikke Nissen

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Created by Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 10:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC).

  • Would it be interesting to include the subjects they pioneered in, like this:
  • As you can see I added two new articles in the mix. Also should this be saved for a special occasion, 8 March or 11 June which is the 100th anniversary for women's suffrage in Norway? Geschichte (talk) 17:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
  • I'll review this, but it might take me some time to finish it off. I believe 11 June is too far away, but we should be able to get this ready for 8 March. The first five articles was not a self-nom, so no QPQ is needed for those, but the last two articles added is not a self-nom, so two QPQ's are needed. The first three articles I've read, (Bang, Munch and Isachsen) does not specifically says anything about they being academic pioneers - allthough I understand that they were from reading the articles, the DYK-facts should be mentioned in the articles with an inline citation. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Dagny Bang checks out, but while reading I get the impression that she was the sixth women to study medicin, while the source says she was the sixth to finish the degree. For all we know, this might aswell be the same thing, but it is possible to clarify this a tad? Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Kristine Munch and Louise Isachsen: was does "first cousin once removed" mean in Munch's article? You should specify that they were back in Oslo in 1903 (unless there is a Møllergaten and St. Olavs plass in Edinburgh aswell) I'd also like to know what "Christian in outlook" means. When it comes to Munch and Isaksen articles, I am concerned that they have too much of the same text, and that both articles are telling the same story about the two people. You should try to makes those two articles look less the same. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:30, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Helga Eng: "started a forty-year career as a primary school teacher" contradicts "From 1916 she would never return to her schoolteaching job" doesn't it. I believe this sentance "Since 1983, the current Harriet Holter House at Blindern had bore Eng's name" is incorrect somehow. Other then that it checks out. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Marie Joys, Andreas Arntzen and Rikke Nissen: Good to go, allthough I did some minor tweaks to the articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
    • I've now reviewed all 7 articles, and while there are some minor issues in some of the articles (in addition to the two QPQ's needed) my main concern is that the hook-fact is not mentioned in the articles (allthough it is mentioned in some of the sources). I don't think that the subject they pioneered in should be included in a seven-article hook, but it could be possible to split it into three hooks (there are three sets that run on 8 March) - that way it would be easier to also include the hook-fact in the articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
      • Thank you for the review and suggestions. I have tried to address some of the issues, by editing the articles Dagny Bang, Kristine Munch, Louise Isachsen, Helga Eng. Oceanh (talk) 16:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
        • Well, the problems about the articles are solved, but we still need those 2 QPQ's. When it comes to the hook, I think we can all call them academic pioneers after reading the articles, but if you add a sentance in the lead about what they pioneered in (like in the articles about Isachsen and Munch), I'll be happy. Mentoz86 (talk) 01:29, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
  • I modified introductions in the articles Dagny Bang, Helga Eng and Rikke Nissen, as suggested. It is probably impossible for me to fulfil QPQ review requirements for those two extra articles, that I neither nominated nor created. One alternative might be to evaluate the original nomination (original hook or alt1, or a variation of these), independently of the said extra articles, and possibly treat those as a separate nomination? Oceanh (talk) 13:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
  • The 5 articles nominated by Oceanh is good to go, with the original hook or ALT1. The ALT2 hook is not usable because of the 2 other articles (Joys and Arntzen) nominated by Geschichte that not fulfil the DYK requirements due to missing QPQ. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:23, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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