Template:Did you know nominations/Farren Soutar

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The result was: promoted by Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:06, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Farren Soutar, Robert Soutar

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~~... that Edwardian actor Farren Soutar was the son of actors Robert Soutar and Nellie Farren?~~

Created/expanded by Jack1956 (talk). Self nominated at 20:02, 9 October 2013 (UTC).

QPQ: reviewed Ralph Hastings (died 1495)

Lengths, dates, and NPOV are good, but another QPQ is needed since there are two articles. If you are willing to use a hook that only mentions one of these, I would suggest:

ALT1: ... that Robert Soutar was a cast member in the original performance of Thespis, the first Gilbert and Sullivan opera?

is imho a more interesting hook, but both are cited so whichever you want is fine. If you go with the original, just the QPQ is needed, if you go with the alt, it's good to go. Thingg^⊕^⊗

Perfectly happy with the alt hook. Thanks for your help. Jack1956 (talk) 22:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Jack1956, what about a separate hook for Farren Soutar? It would be a shame for Farren's article not to be highlighted at all. Or you could combine info from the two hooks into a single hook to retain father and son together. Perhaps something like:

ALT2: ... that Robert Soutar was a cast member in the original production of Thespis, the first Gilbert and Sullivan opera, and his son Farren starred in Edwardian musical comedies in London and on Broadway?

ALT2 is 197 characters, which is fine for a two-article hook. Note that an independent reviewer will be needed for either ALT, since neither Thingg nor I can review our own hooks. I think adding the G&S connection will help attract readers. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I am also happy with ALT2. Thanks for your help. Jack1956 (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

New reviewer needed for ALT hooks. (Note that ALT2 covers both articles; ALT1 just one of them.) Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 20:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

ALT2 hook approved. Montanabw^(talk) 06:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

To my embarrassment, I realize that I forgot to note that Jack1956 still needs to supply a second QPQ review—DYK rules say that one QPQ must be provided for each bolded article in the hook. I'll ping Jack right now. Thanks, Montanabw, for doing the hook review; I've struck the others. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

QPQ2: Reviewed Elmer Flick Jack1956 (talk) 08:12, 11 November 2013 (UTC)