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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 18:24, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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Farha (film)
- ... that the Jordanian film Farha depicts the killing of a Palestinian family by Israeli soldiers during the Nakba? Source: Forward
Created by Coffeeandcrumbs (talk). Self-nominated at 05:46, 5 December 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: @Coffeeandcrumbs: New article. Article is sourced and the hook is interesting. QPQ satisfied. Nehme1499 18:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Coffeeandcrumbs and Nehme1499: Unfortunately, it seems the hook falls afoul of WP:DYKSG#C6, which requires that the hook be substantially connected to something outside the film's plot. Could another hook be found? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I don't interpret it as it requiring connection to
something outside the film's plot
. It saysthe hook must involve the real world in some way
, which it does as it references the Nakba. Nehme1499 09:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)- @Nehme1499: Well, the Nakba is the setting of the film – it's a period piece, after all. C6 isn't really designed for works of fiction that take place in real settings, but I would say that the rule generally aims to prevent hooks based solely on a work's creative vision – the idea being that when you point a camera at a scene, the sky's the limit, so not much ends up really being out of the ordinary. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Has there ever been a discussion related to C6 and fictional works set in real life? In the meantime, we can wait for C&C to provide us with an ALT hook if possible. Nehme1499 10:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- How about this? It is a bit longer at 153 characters but still hooky.
- Sources: [1][2] which are also cited inline in the article. There is also another sentence in the article (cited to this source) which states that the scene depicting the killing is the reason for all the hoopla. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 16:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- I also approve ALT 1. Nehme1499 16:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Coffeeandcrumbs and Nehme1499: I'm not quite sure about ALT1; neither of the cited sources seem to be willing to say that it's a coordinated campaign in their own voice. How about something like this: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- I also approve ALT 1. Nehme1499 16:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Has there ever been a discussion related to C6 and fictional works set in real life? In the meantime, we can wait for C&C to provide us with an ALT hook if possible. Nehme1499 10:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Nehme1499: Well, the Nakba is the setting of the film – it's a period piece, after all. C6 isn't really designed for works of fiction that take place in real settings, but I would say that the rule generally aims to prevent hooks based solely on a work's creative vision – the idea being that when you point a camera at a scene, the sky's the limit, so not much ends up really being out of the ordinary. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I don't interpret it as it requiring connection to
@Theleekycauldron: There are 3 sources cited inline which verify ALT1 in their own voice:
- "An online petition was started, demanding Netflix drop the film. Another called on people to downgrade Farha on IMDB."[3]
- "Hundreds of spam accounts have left negative reviews of the film Farha on the movie rating site IMDb, in what appears to be an organised campaign."[4]
- "In response to its screening on Netflix, there has been coordinated downvoting of its ratings online, as well as a social media campaign calling on people to cancel their Netflix subscriptions."[5]
In any case, ALT2 or ALT2a are not in the article. AFAIK, the article only mentions threats. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 00:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)