Template:Did you know nominations/FP (Poulenc)
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:15, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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FP (Poulenc)
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Poulenc and Landowska
- ... that the catalogue of compositions by Francis Poulenc, published in 1995 by Carl B. Schmidt, contains Concert champêtre, FP 49, inspired by the harpsichordist Wanda Landowska (pictured with the composer)? Source: the catalogue ref, and FP 49
- Reviewed: Clarence B. Randall
- Comment: more refs will come, but I need to leave now
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and LouisAlain (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:51, 22 January 2017 (UTC).
Looks good to me. History, hook, long enough, Earwig's check run, seems neutral to me, uses inline cites. I would change "contains" to "includes" in the hook.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
(Not a full review) The article is presently ineligible because some non-lead paragraphs do not have inline citations, per D2 of the DYK Supplementary guidelines. The paragraph in the "Collaboration in the group Les Six" section and the first paragraph in the "The human voice” section lack inline citations. Of particular concern is the latter, because content about "the human voice" is not sourced elsewhere in the article. North America1000 14:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- These summaries work like a lead, summarizing facts from the table. Do we need a citation that an opera, a song, a motet, a cantata, is written for the human voice? - Should refs from Les Six be repeated here? (Btw, I don't need a template on my talk, watching my noms. Please send a template only if I haven't responded in a week.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I understand what you're saying, but the tables have nothing about "The human voice". As such, "The human voice" section could be interpreted as original research or opinion, rather than fact based upon sources. Sorry. North America1000 14:55, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- In other words: you want in this article a reference that an opera is written for a human voice? The section only summarizes that he wrote many works in the genres vocal and choral, which you can easily see when you sort by genre. (Please don't ping me again on this thing today, - I'm watching.) - I can park the section on the talk page if you sleep better then. For the moment, I place it in the lead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I notice that you have now removed content about "the human voice" from the article. Note that there's a source in the image caption regarding "Les Six". I'm not fluent in French; I wonder if this source is usable to verify content in the "Les Six" section? North America1000 15:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I have moved the summary to the lead. Had no time to look at Les Six yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- I notice that you have now removed content about "the human voice" from the article. Note that there's a source in the image caption regarding "Les Six". I'm not fluent in French; I wonder if this source is usable to verify content in the "Les Six" section? North America1000 15:23, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- In other words: you want in this article a reference that an opera is written for a human voice? The section only summarizes that he wrote many works in the genres vocal and choral, which you can easily see when you sort by genre. (Please don't ping me again on this thing today, - I'm watching.) - I can park the section on the talk page if you sleep better then. For the moment, I place it in the lead. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I understand what you're saying, but the tables have nothing about "The human voice". As such, "The human voice" section could be interpreted as original research or opinion, rather than fact based upon sources. Sorry. North America1000 14:55, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- These summaries work like a lead, summarizing facts from the table. Do we need a citation that an opera, a song, a motet, a cantata, is written for the human voice? - Should refs from Les Six be repeated here? (Btw, I don't need a template on my talk, watching my noms. Please send a template only if I haven't responded in a week.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- Matters above have been addressed, and the "Collaboration in the group Les Six" section now has a citation in the paragraph, so this should be good to go. Restoring tick per the above review, which I AGF about, since my concerns were not based upon a full review performed by myself. North America1000 15:55, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. I liked most of your copyedits, but to send people from the clear definition of "concerto with orchestra [in the 20th century] to the overly general "meaning varied" seems not helpful, imho. Bach called his cantatas concerto, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
