Template:Did you know nominations/Erratus
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 00:45, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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Erratus
A diagram reconstruction of Erratus sperare
... that Erratus (pictured) was the first arthropod to evolve legs over 520 million years ago? Source: https://scitechdaily.com/new-missing-link-fossil-reveals-origin-of-arthropod-breathing-system/ALT1: ... that Erratus (pictured) was one of the earliest known arthropods to show the origins of lungs and limbs in the group?Source: https://scitechdaily.com/new-missing-link-fossil-reveals-origin-of-arthropod-breathing-system/
ALT2: ... that the Early Cambrian aged Maotianshan Shales have produced many fossils such as the primative arthropod Erratus (pictured)?Source: https://scitechdaily.com/new-missing-link-fossil-reveals-origin-of-arthropod-breathing-system/
Created by Fossiladder13 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC).
New and long enough, QPQ exempt (QPQ Check results), as the nominator has less than five DYK credits, all non-lead ¶ with citations, a copyvio check reveals no problems, hook content is interesting. An immediate problem is that all of the hook content is not present in the article. Nowhere in the article does it state that the Erratus was the first arthropod to evolve legs. This notion is also not directly mentioned in the source provided atop. Rather, the source alludes to the notion, stating, "Erratus sperare provides the missing link between arthropods that used such specialized flaps and arthropods with biramous limbs. It has both legs and flaps." However, the source does not directly state that it was the first to evolve legs. North America1000 09:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)- Comment Seconding North America's comment and wanted to elaborate a bit. One issue with the whole notion of "first lifeform to evolve" statements are that they're never entirely accurate. They may be the earliest that we know of at the moment, but this is simply due to limitations on the ever-expanding nature of knowledge. Any statement like "the first x to do y" is going to fall flat with time (remember Archaeopteryx? Probably wasn't the first bird after new discoveries emerged), so its safest (if the hook source is accurate in the first place) to replace "first" with "earliest known". Ornithoptera (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Ok how does it look now Ornithoptera?. This is Fossiladder asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fossiladder13 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging Ornithoptera, since prior ping won't have gone through without a sig. Also pinging original reviewer North America1000. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry, I wasn't meaning to review the DYK nomination but was simply making some further comments on the issue. I think the review went to Northamerica1000 so reviewing the DYK was redundant if I was to. I apologize for the misunderstanding though. Ornithoptera (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging Ornithoptera, since prior ping won't have gone through without a sig. Also pinging original reviewer North America1000. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; the previous reviewer will not be returning, though they believe the hook issue remains. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)- (Not a review) Comment After reading the article, I sadly must conclude that I don't understand the topic well enough to gauge hook accuracy. However, I wanted to point out that sources 3 and 4 in the article share a lot of content and seem to be directly related. Since these sources are not that important to the article it's no big deal, but would be cleaner to just have one of them.
- And in order to get this through at some point, I'd suggest to explore other hooks. @Fossiladder13: Can you think of any alternate hooks? Brainstorming might yield something fresh that others can more easily agree upon. --LordPeterII (talk) 19:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Re Alt 1, what do the words "in the group" add that isn't understood by deleting them? --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 15:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1a ... that Erratus (pictured) was one of the earliest known arthropods to show the origins of lungs and limbs?
- Re Alt 2, "exquisite fossils" is an opinion, not mentioned (let alone cited) in the article. Wikipedia does not have opinions. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 15:52, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Approve Alt1a. --evrik (talk) 18:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
