Template:Did you know nominations/Emma Teeling

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:53, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Emma Teeling

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• ... that Emma Teeling directs a facility called the BatLab (aka the Laboratory of Molecular Evolution and Mammalian Phylogenetics), and co-founded a project to analyse the genomes of all bat species?https://www.ucd.ie/scienceforschools/BatsTYBookHighQualitySec2.pdf and doi=10.1146/annurev-animal-022516-022811, Bat Biology, Genomes, and the Bat1K Project: To Generate Chromosome-Level Genomes for All Living Bat Species
  • ALT1:... that Irish zoologist and geneticist Emma Teeling founded and directs a research facility called the BatLab, or, formally, the Laboratory of Molecular Evolution and Mammalian Phylogenetics?https://www.ucd.ie/scienceforschools/BatsTYBookHighQualitySec2.pdf
  • ALT2:... that Irish zoologist and geneticist Emma Teeling was made a Chevalier in the Ordre des Palmes Academiques (an award established by Napoleon), in the same ceremony as her astrophysicist husband?https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/husband-and-wife-scientists-made-chevaliers-by-french-government/

• Comment: 3rd nomination, no QPQ required

Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 20 September 2020 (UTC).

• New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits.
• The hook options, though, are rather wordy. The purpose of a "hook" is to "reel in" the reader to want to read more, not to tell him everything there is to know. I suggest you shorten the hook or play around with the BatLab part (remember Batman?). Like:
• ALT3: ... that Emma Teeling created the BatLab? Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'd be happy to modify per advice. How about, just to give a little context:

• ALT4: ... that zoologist and geneticist Emma Teeling created the BatLab at University College Dublin?

or could we say - the idea of longevity might be "hook-y" for readers:

• ALT5: ... that Irish scientist Emma Teeling created the BatLab, which looks at how bats live so long and how this might help with human aging?
• ALT5a: ... that scientist Emma Teeling of the BatLab in Dublin studies a genus of bats which don'tdo not appear to die of old age?

“[Myotis bats] don’t appear to experience age-related mortality,” Teeling tells... https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neqbdd/bats-dont-die-old-age-telomeres-longevity

• @SeoR: you could give more context, but the hook wording of ALT4 is not very punchy; I wouldn't even click on the bolded link. I don't see the ALT5 hook fact mentioned or verified in the article. Yoninah (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah: Clearer and with reference, getting closer? Thanks, SeoR (talk) 20:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Please don't overwrite the hooks; it makes it impossible for reviewers and promoters to follow the discussion. I've struck your unused hook and renumbered your new hook as ALT5a. Yoninah (talk) 20:04, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• SeoR: ALT5a is good; I would just tweak it a little this way to keep BatLab more prominent; we also don't use contractions on the main page:
• ALT5b: ... that scientist Emma Teeling of Dublin's BatLab has studied a genus of bats which do not appear to die of old age? Yoninah (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• On second thought, your ALT5a hook wording is better, just without the contraction. ALT5a hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT5a good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)