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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 20:30, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator, who is unable to address the remaining issues raised

Ed Rush

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Ed Rush DJing at Washington in 2015
Ed Rush DJing at Washington in 2015
  • ...that although Ed Rush & Optical played at the opening weekend of the club Fabric in 1999 it was 16 years before they released a CD in the Fabriclive mix series? Source: [1]: "We played on the opening weekend....Almost shockingly, Ed Rush & Optical had never contributed to Fabric's Fabriclive mix-CD series, but that omission has now been rectified via Fabriclive 82,"
    • ALT1:... that drum and bass musician Ed Rush is named after rave slang for a white-out after taking too much ecstasy? Source: [2]: "'Ed Rush' sounds like a take on the 'head rush' , early rave slang for a temporary white-out of consciousness caused by taking too many E's"
  • Reviewed: Peter Coade
  • Comment: Previously deleted article.

Created by Yorkshiresky (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC).

  • This is a bit tricky to assess. Compared to the restored earlier content, this was not a 5x expansion. However at the time of the nomination it was a valid creation of a new page. The earlier content was not used in the creation of this text. And it is large enough. The main text is cited, however the Discography is largely uncited. Given the substantial coverage in the supplied references this should easily survive another AFD. QPQ done. Correct person credited. No copyvio found in check. Hook alt1 has 109 characters, short enough, it is in article and cited. Although picture is suitably licenced and exif date makes this look genuine, it is a bit small to see clearly. Can you do a crop of the centre third to give us a close up of the man, and less background and sound desk? If we use the image we need to add (pictured) to the hook too. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
  • For the original hook, it seems to be partly contradicted by the text, as it says they were on FabricLive.06, and it does not verify that Ed Rush released FabricLive.82, just that they were on it. However ALT1 is usable instead. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for reviewing. Re the first hook. They did appear on the tracklisting of FabricLive.06, and indeed FabricLive.18 and 40. However FabricLive.82 was the first album in the series they mixed i.e. as the headline act. Will look at rephrasing the sentence so it's clearer.yorkshiresky (talk) 18:46, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
  • yorkshiresky, I don't see how the source quote supports ALT1. Just because "Ed Rush" sounds like "head rush", it doesn't follow that this is actually where Settle got the name. Absent something more definitive, the hook isn't usable. I'm also wondering whether the addition of the word "headline" in the article is enough to satisfy Graeme Bartlett's concerns for the original hook; it still doesn't seem enough to me, but I'm not versed in Fabriclive or how to count participation in a mix series. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:22, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
  • There has been no response in over three weeks. I have struck ALT1 for the reasons mentioned above. The nominator's talk page is being pinged one last time; if there is no response in a week, the nomination will regretfully be marked for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Apologies for not replying sooner, been busy with other stuff. Not sure how much I can do to clarify above concerns.Essentially there's two facets to their participation in the mixes a. as contributing artists, one amongst many and b. as the 'curator' of the mix who chooses what goes into the mix and how it's sequenced, flows etc, In that respect the act doing the mix is the more significant aspect of it. I hope that helps in some way. If that's not suitable I'd suggest an Alt 2 ...Did you know that having played at the opening of nightclub Fabric in 1999, Ed Rush & Optical took part in a benefit in 2016 to raise funds which successfully challenged the clubs closure? yorkshiresky (talk) 11:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
  • the discography section is still mostly uncited. so I cannot pass this yet. Alt3 needs a bit of work with grammar, format and tightening up to be less wordy. It is in the article and supported by two citations, but although there is a reference saying he opened at the Fabric opening, the other reference 19 does not say that he actually played at the benefit, just a prediction of it. So we need a post concert reference. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
  • I can source a discography for the albums, but I assume sources such as Discogs or RYM aren't suitable for the singles. On second point can't find any links to show that the event happened. Therefore, unless someone wants to do the leg work I'd like to withdraw the nomination. yorkshiresky (talk) 18:30, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Since there now seem to be no hooks proposed, and the problems will not be fixed any time soon. However if sourcing can be done on the discography that will improve the article. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)