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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:42, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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East Somerville station

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Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 17 August 2022 (UTC).

  • The article was recently improved to GA status, is long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough. Fact is interesting, neutral, in the article, backed up by a good source. Nominator's QPQ confirmed. This one is good to go. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 19:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
  • The hook makes an incredibly strong statement—no one objected—and it appears to be based on a newspaper report of a single Public Utilities Commission meeting where Prospect Hill seemed to have no supporters. It seems extremely unlikely to me that not one Somerville resident or worker commuting to Somerville at the time would have been upset or inconvenienced or to have preferred that the station remained open, but the key here is that the source is nowhere near as definite or all-encompassing as the hook. I think this need a new hook that is more plausible. (The article's explanation about Lechmere station sounds plausible in terms of diminishing traffic, but is unsupported by either article source.) I think this needs a significantly modified or completely new hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: how about something along the lines of ...when when Prospect Hill station, predecessor of the modern East Somerville station, was proposed for closure in 1927, it "seemed to have no supporters"? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:19, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Pi.1415926535, I think that's still too broad; the source is talking about a single meeting, not whatever objections might have been made when the closure was first proposed or leading up to and after the meeting. I think that the following would satisfy my objections, though at 191 characters it's only a little below the maximum hook length of 200:
  • ALT1: ... that when Prospect Hill station, predecessor of the modern East Somerville station, was proposed for closure in 1927, it "seemed to have no supporters" before the Public Utilities Commission?
For this hook to be used, the quote and the PUC meeting it is characterizing will both need to be added to the article, as hook facts must be in both the article and its supporting sources. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: Hmm, that hook would be a bit clunky and not terribly exciting. (Not your fault - I really appreciate your attention to detail and accuracy here!) Perhaps one of these two? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
  • ALT2 is approved; I think it's interesting and the facts are in the article and backed up by sources. (The time passage of 95 years—plus a number of months—between May 1927 and November 2022 is simple math and doesn't need extra sourcing.) I've struck ALT3 because I don't think one of the very many plans that never came to fruition makes an interesting hook. (Pi.1415926535, I don't disagree with you about ALT1. I do like that ALT2 is more clearly about the new station, which I hope does open at the end of November as currently planned.) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:23, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
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