Template:Did you know nominations/Dri Archer

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The result was: rejected by Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 15:35, 30 March 2013 (UTC).

Dri Archer, Zach Ertz

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... that American football players Dri Archer and Zach Ertz were both named consensus All-Americans in 2012?

Reviewed: Charles-Auguste Lebourg, Gerald Finnerman

Created/expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Dull hook. They weren't the only football players named consensus All-Americans last year; nor ever. Can you find something genuinely unusual or interesting? Daniel Case (talk) 15:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Alt 1a ... that American football player Dri Archer was named the Mid American Conference Special Teams Player of the Year in 2012? Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 19:34, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Alt 1b ... that American football player Zach Ertz studied a major in management science and engineering? Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 19:34, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Two exceptionally lightweight articles -- only slightly above 1500 characters, and not very informative. There's more information in the blurbs on the university websites, which isn't saying much. I don't like the idea of featuring such minimal contributions on the main page. The cited sources for Zach Ertz appear to contain a lot more information about him, and when I searched for info on Dri Archer I quickly found some additional sources that would help the article: [1], [2].

As for the hooks, ALT1a for Archer is supported only by the blurb on the university website (a news media item about the award with some commentary on why he got it would be stronger) and the fact is not yet explicitly footnoted in the article. One detail I find interesting about Archer (YMMV) is that he's [only] 5'-8" tall. Consider:

ALT2a ... that Kent State running back Dri Archer, a consensus All-American in 2012, is 5 feet 8 inches (1.7m) tall? --Orlady (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

For Ertz, the ALT1b hook is supported, but it's not awfully interesting. The article doesn't say that he's graduating this year and foregoing his last year of football eligibility to enter the draft. If the article discussed that, it might make a basis for an interesting hook. --Orlady (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I'm stereotyping, but it seems unusual to me when a football player is an engineering major. OCNative (talk) 20:14, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Despite repeated requests on PM800's talk page, PM800 has not posted here or addressed the issues raised, though being quite active elsewhere on Wikipedia. Given Orlady's concerns, this nomination is being closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC)