Template:Did you know nominations/Dragon Dormant
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The result was: promoted by Zanhe (talk) 17:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Dragon Dormant
[edit]- ... that Pu Songling wrote of a man and his hibernating dragon?
Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC).
This article was created on April 3, the article is over 1,500 characters, the article is neutral, and there are no issues with copyvio. QPQ is satisfied and there is no image associated with this nomination. There are, however, a few issues I would like to discuss before approving this nomination:
You cite to page xx of the Sondergard book to support the claims that the story was "[o]riginally titled Zhelong (蟄龍)" and that "the story first appeared in Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio (1740) by Qing dynasty writer Pu Songling". However, I don't see either of those claims discussed at page xx of her book.
- Upon further review, given the fact that the the citation references the chapter in Sondergard's book about Strange Tales, I think think this citation is adequate. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:05, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Although the hook says that "Pu Songing wrote of a man and his hibernating dragon", I don't think the story ever said that the dragon belonged to the man. Is there a different hook we can use?
This isn't relevant to passing this DYK review, but why does the title for the infobox say "The Painted Skin"? Is that the title of the lithograph? I'm concerned that the placement of a different title in such a prominent location in the article may confuse readers.
- This issue has been resolved. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Please let me know if you have any questions or if any of my comments are unclear. I look forward to approving this nomination soon. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:18, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oops, out of laziness I copied the infobox framework from The Painted Skin. Page xx certainly does mention [Zhelong] (The Hibernating Dragon). Whilst it does not specifically say "the story first appeared", the work by itself is a translation of stories that first appeared in Liaozhai zhiyi. Well, technically it isn't his, but one could argue so seeing as it originated from his book and it isn't meant to be literal. His dragon would be hookier and brings about more pleasant imagery. If you really must, ALT1: ... that Pu Songling's "reward" for a scholar is having him meet a dormant dragon? Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 09:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: I agree that the original hook would be "catchier," but in recent weeks, hooks have been removed from the main page for making claims that describe a subject in metaphoric terms. I think ALT1 is still interesting, though the article does not mention the fact that the dragon was "sleeping." Perhaps we can replace the word "sleeping" with "dormant?" Also, be sure to link the article somewhere in the hook and place the link words in bold text. Thanks so much for your hard work with this! Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oops, out of laziness I copied the infobox framework from The Painted Skin. Page xx certainly does mention [Zhelong] (The Hibernating Dragon). Whilst it does not specifically say "the story first appeared", the work by itself is a translation of stories that first appeared in Liaozhai zhiyi. Well, technically it isn't his, but one could argue so seeing as it originated from his book and it isn't meant to be literal. His dragon would be hookier and brings about more pleasant imagery. If you really must, ALT1: ... that Pu Songling's "reward" for a scholar is having him meet a dormant dragon? Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 09:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yep. Kingoflettuce (talk) 02:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Fantastic. ALT1 is good to go. It is under 200 characters, interesting, and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (Sondergard at p. xx). -- Notecardforfree (talk) 03:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
