Template:Did you know nominations/Double florin
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 07:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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Double florin
Obverse of double florin
- ... that the British coin, the double florin (pictured), was criticised both as too close in size to the crown and because the crown on it was too small? Source: Footnotes 25, 51
5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:34, 15 January 2022 (UTC).
Recent expansion to over 5x, very well written and referenced. Even though it is a niche topic, the article is eminently readable. AGF on offline sources. Image is appropriate, used in the article, and suitably licensed. QPQ done. I bolded the article and added the '(pictured)' in the hook. Just a couple of remarks on the hook. First, as it stands, without clicking on the links, the reader would be confused. Perhaps add 'coin' after the first 'crown'? Alternatively, may I suggest another, possibly catchier, hook? ALT1: ... that the British coin, the double florin, was called "Barmaid's Ruin" as it was frequently used instead of the similarly sized crown? Constantine ✍ 19:33, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have no objection to the ALT1, except you might clean it up to (ALT 2) " ... was called the "Barmaid's Ruin", as barmaids were said to have mistaken it for the more valuable crown." I was thinking the original might make a good April Fool's hook.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:54, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I thought that you might be driving at that, but April Fool's generally tries to trick the reader, and here the reader can already infer that you are talking about two different crowns. I admit I cannot think of a way to improve on ALT0 to make it more April Fool's-like, though. On ALT2, fully agreed. Otherwise this is
good to go. Constantine ✍ 20:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I thought that you might be driving at that, but April Fool's generally tries to trick the reader, and here the reader can already infer that you are talking about two different crowns. I admit I cannot think of a way to improve on ALT0 to make it more April Fool's-like, though. On ALT2, fully agreed. Otherwise this is
- Suits me.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Wehwalt and Cplakidas: hi there! Are we sure that coins are automatically available under Crown copyright? The mint seems to have a separate guideline for commercial use of images of coins... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 10:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- That page, by its terms, applies only to "United Kingdom decimal coins" which this is not. The Commons deletion discussion here discusses the general point.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Better yet, just see c:COM:CUR UK: "The Royal Mint's copyright on coin designs is an instance of Crown Copyright. Sculptures subject to Crown Copyright which were created more than 50 years ago are now in the public domain: use . Images of British coins with designs created more than 50 years ago are permissible provided that the author of the work containing the coins is willing to release his / her copyright to the reuse of the image, which is a separate copyright concern and must also be addressed." The photographer of the coins has released their rights so all is good.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:55, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, I see—fair enough, thanks! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 12:26, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Wehwalt and Cplakidas: hi there! Are we sure that coins are automatically available under Crown copyright? The mint seems to have a separate guideline for commercial use of images of coins... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 10:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have no objection to the ALT1, except you might clean it up to (ALT 2) " ... was called the "Barmaid's Ruin", as barmaids were said to have mistaken it for the more valuable crown." I was thinking the original might make a good April Fool's hook.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:54, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
