Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothy Van Engle
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
| DYK toolbox |
|---|
Dorothy Van Engle
- ... that 1930s actress Dorothy Van Engle was described as a strong female character and a "proto-feminist role" for African Americans? Source: Dorothy Van Engle, 87; African American Star of ‘Race Films’ in ‘30s - Los Angeles Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Punctelia graminicola
- Comment: The article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit
Created by Silver seren (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 22:16, 5 May 2022 (UTC).
Interesting life on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is acceptable, but I think mentioning the film title Murder in Harlem would add to the general idea (birthplace, action). I didn't know the term "strong female character", and without that, I would have passed it as not remarkable (but that's probably just me). I also like that she sewed her own costumes. We'll need all films referenced, and not to IMDb. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Article is fixed up, @Gerda Arendt: and how about this?
- Alt 1: ... that 1930s actress Dorothy Van Engle starred in Murder in Harlem as a strong female character that was a source of positive representation of African Americans in film in the time period?
- Is that better? SilverserenC 01:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I like that much better, and could approve, just think that "intelligent" and "strong-minded" might be better than the type (perhaps piped), and "sole" would add to to positive representation", of the time, or of the period, or just "then", and perhaps the film's year rather than 1930s. Want to try? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't put "sole" because that would be inaccurate, since there were other positive representations at the time, not just here. How about this though, since I do actually prefer the proto-feminist part more than the strong female part.
- Alt 2: ... that actress Dorothy Van Engle starred in the 1935 movie Murder in Harlem with a "proto-feminist role" that was then a primary source of positive representation for African Americans in film?
- How's that, @Gerda Arendt:? SilverserenC 01:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
that's positive, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't put "sole" because that would be inaccurate, since there were other positive representations at the time, not just here. How about this though, since I do actually prefer the proto-feminist part more than the strong female part.
- I like that much better, and could approve, just think that "intelligent" and "strong-minded" might be better than the type (perhaps piped), and "sole" would add to to positive representation", of the time, or of the period, or just "then", and perhaps the film's year rather than 1930s. Want to try? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Article is fixed up, @Gerda Arendt: and how about this?
