Template:Did you know nominations/Donbass Association
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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Donbass Association
[edit]- ... that the creation of the pro-Russian Donbass Association caused one commentator to state that the "shadow of Moscow reaches Scania"?
Created/expanded by Stamboliyski (talk). Self nominated at 14:05, 21 December 2014 (UTC).
The article itself seems fine: creation date, size, references, all according to policy, apparently it has not been taken from anywhere, etc. It may be better if it was organized in sections, but that's not mandatory. However, the hook is unclear. When read in isolation (as it will be when read in the main page) it's hard to understand what is it about. An association can be made for several purposes, a political party (as in this case) is only one of them. Without a mention to Sweden, not Swedish people may not immediately recognize where is Scania. And at least in my case, when I first read about "the shadow of Moscow", I thought that this article would be related to the Cold War era. Cambalachero (talk) 13:02, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Alright, apologies for the unclearness. How about... Stamboliyski (talk) 13:15, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2014 creation of the pro-Russian Donbass Association in Malmö caused one commentator to state that the "shadow of Moscow reaches Scania"?
- ALT2: ... that the 2014 creation of the pro-Russian Donbass Association in southern Sweden caused one commentator to state that the "shadow of Moscow reaches Scania"?
- It still doesn't clarify the context of this "shadow". How about this:
- ALT3: ... that the Swedish political movement Donbass Association adopted several pro-Russian symbols, such as the red star or the hammer and sickle? Cambalachero (talk) 12:34, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that's neither very interesting or very unusual in Sweden. Those symbols can't be described as pro-Russian either in themselves, unless seen with the fuller context of the War in Donbass and the rebel movement there. To me, the shadow part quite clearly implied that te Association was seen as a tool of Russian influence. Stamboliyski (talk) 13:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- For the sake of clarity, since you noted an issue with that:
- ALT4: ... that the 2014 creation of the pro-Russian Donbass Association in Malmö was viewed by many as an act of Russian involvement in Sweden, causing one commentator to state that the "shadow of Moscow reaches Scania"? Stamboliyski (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- The ALT4 seems fine, except that it has 209 characters (the limit is 200). We may remove "2014" and "in Malmö", reducing it to 195 characters.
- ALT5: ... that the creation of the pro-Russian Donbass Association was viewed by many as an act of Russian involvement in Sweden, causing one commentator to state that "the shadow of Moscow reaches Scania"? Cambalachero (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- Reason I added "2014" and "in Malmö" was due to earlier complaints. I'm fine with removing them though if it goes over the limit. Stamboliyski (talk) 12:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I think we agree then on ALT5 Cambalachero (talk) 12:39, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
