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Darrell Hogan

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~~... that NFL player Darrell Hogan was named an All-Pro as an undrafted rookie in 1949?~~

Source: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaDa20.htm

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Details Cannot Body Wants

5x expanded by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC).

Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 06:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria -- recently expanded 5x. No concerns with length, tone, or neutrality. Earwig shows no copyvio. No problems with overall sourcing -- sourced to a couple of databases and a couple of obituaries. All good there.

Have two questions re: the hook. I think I understand the gist of it. Hogan was named into the All-Pro team before being drafted into a professional team? Can we try any other hook to make this score higher on the interestingness scale? If there is not much to improve the hook, I will go with the nominator's choice. That said, the hook still needs to be used in the article. I do not see that currently. The article does say that he was first-team All-Pro, but does not state the other parts of the hook.

Handing this back to the nominator. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Everything in the hook is in the article. See pro career section: "After going undrafted in the 1949 NFL draft, Hogan signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers on February 27, 1949.[5] He started all 12 games for the Steelers during his rookie year in 1949, recording one interception and two fumble recoveries.[1] He was named a first-team All-Pro by the International News Service for the 1949 season." It's in the lead also.

I added some more alts below. Those might be better anyway. Thank you.

- ALT1: ... that NFL player Darrell Hogan was an Old West aficionado?

Sources: "Even before his 1985 retirement, Hogan was enamored with the Old West. A line in his obituary reads that he watched Gunsmoke re-runs every day with his dogs Little Bit and Blue." "traveled the western states every summer, hitting Western art and memorabilia shows." "An avid fan of all things western"

ALT2: ... that NFL player Darrell Hogan watched Gunsmoke everyday?

Sources: A line in his obituary reads that he watched Gunsmoke re-runs every day with his dogs Little Bit and Blue."

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

ALT0 needs to be introduced into the article. Currently it needs to be synthesized from different parts of the article. ALT1 and ALT2 are good and are approved. Minor point -- I would recommend updating the sentence "His obituary stated that ..." to "An obituary in the San Antonio Express News stated that ...". Adding for ALT1 and ALT2. Striking ALT0. Ktin (talk) 16:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)