Template:Did you know nominations/Damn Senators
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Zanhe (talk) 06:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Nominator has been blocked as a sockpuppet.
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Damn Senators
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- ... that Damn Senators by Mark Judge argues his grandfather Joe Judge (pictured) should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame? Source: Gilbert, Bill (July 14, 2003), "When Washington's Senators won the world series", Human Events, 59 (23), p. 26 – via ProQuest.
- ALT1:... that Damn Senators by Mark Judge argues his grandfather Joe Judge (pictured) had the same baseball statistics as Mickey Mantle? Source: Gilbert, Bill (July 14, 2003), "When Washington's Senators won the world series", Human Events, 59 (23), p. 26 – via ProQuest.
- Reviewed: Hunter Island (Bronx)
- Comment: New article, created 25 September 2018. Article is over 7,000 characters in size.
Created by Sagecandor (talk). Self-nominated at 17:46, 25 September 2018 (UTC).
- Certainly new enough, created on the 25th. Long enough. Well cited, neutral enough. Highly relevant topic I understand in the US right now, no question of it being interesting. No copyvio detected. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 15:37, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hook 1 citation checks out, (accessed via Nexis). It is an easy grab, everyone knows what a 'hall of fame' is, and the air of controversy put forward over the issue of the older Judge not being in the hall of fame fits the tone of the book and the article well.
His grandson makes the case that with numbers like that over two decades, Joe Judge belongs in the Hall of Fame, and many of his contemporaries felt the same way. His grandson's book, which takes its title from the hit movie and Broadway musical, "Damn Yankees," strikes a strong blow on behalf of the senior Judge. At the end, the book briefly mentions the years after Judge's career, including the departure of the Senators from Washington. The brief coverage is understandable, since the author's primary purpose is to tell the story of his grandfather and the Senators in the 1920s.
- Hook ALT1 is unclear, the article cited suggests that Joe Judge did have the same average as Mickey Mantle, but Mark Judge is out in his calculations by .002 in the book. The current wording could be improved to explain the situation better. It is also less interesting to a wide audience. The reader is expected to know about baseball statistics and know who Mickey Mantle is. This would work well for an American audience, less well internationally.
Joe Judge was considered the best fielding first baseman in the league in those years, even though he stood only 5 feet, 8-1/2 inches tall. He led the league in fielding average, and hit well enough to finish his career with a .298 average over 20 years. That's the same lifetime average achieved by Mickey Mantle in 18 seasons, but not the .300 mark for Judge mentioned in the book, according to the Baseball Encyclopedia.
- If the image is to be used, it may be better to crop the frame.
- Based on this I am approving Hook 1, but not ALT1.
— Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 16:08, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Frayae:Thank you, I agree we can go with Hook 1. Sagecandor (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Consensus at WT:DYK seems to be that this nomination be closed, along with the other solo nominations by this editor. Accordingly, marking for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
