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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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Dämmernde Stadt
- ... that when Egon Schiele's painting Dämmernde Stadt (pictured) was auctioned in 2018, the descendants of two former owners shared the proceeds? Source: [1] and others
- Reviewed: to come
- Comment: We could say "voluntary private restitution" but I didn't know what that is until researching here. Better wording welcome for a complicated story. Sadly, the image doesn't show well when small.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 07:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC).
- User:The Rambling Man is welcome to review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- Article criteria check out, new enough, long enough, not seeing evidence of copyvio, image licensing looks suitable. But some specifics within the article:
- You mention "descents" a few times, I think you mean "descendants".
- We should be using a full stop for the currency delimiter, and "mio" doesn't mean anything in English, I think just "m" (for million I presume) would suffice.
- "He completed Dämmernde Stadt in 2013, signed and dated" really? I think you mean "He completed, signed and dated Dämmernde Stadt in 1913."
- "in Vienna.[5][3]" refs in numerical order.
- "400 kronen" which kronen?
- Both "chalk" and picture dimensions are noted in the infobox but not in the article and not referenced anywhere that I can see...
- As to the hook, I am satisfied that we don't need to get into the techinicalitites of restitution, but would advocate the inclusion of the value of the auction, nearly $25m is quite significant. Otherwise I think it's a nice piece.
- In summary, a few article tweaks (sure, one or two are aesthetic, but two or three need addressing) and a small discussion over the hook required. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:02, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! I hope I caught the 6 points. A description would be nice, but I lack time and familiarity with the topic, especially "art language". Help welcome. I added the source for measurements, added inches, and took "medium" from the same source.
ALT1: ... that when Egon Schiele's painting Dämmernde Stadt (pictured) was auctioned for $24.57 m in 2018, the descendants of two former owners shared the proceeds?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)- David, any chance that painting could be a bit brighter? Compare the external link. (It's just as dark in all sources, though.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda: I've adjusted the levels. —David Levy 17:10, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, much better! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Almost there, I've just double-checked the MOS for "million" and realised that we don't know which kind of $ was used, so here's 1a, what do you think Gerda?
- ALT1a: ... that when Egon Schiele's painting Dämmernde Stadt (pictured) was auctioned for US$24.6 million in 2018, the descendants of two former owners shared the proceeds? The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 08:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- In the article, I think it's clear by mentioning New York, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, per MOS:CURRENCY the article is not country-specific, so it would be worth being explicit there too. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, per MOS:CURRENCY the article is not country-specific, so it would be worth being explicit there too. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, much better! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda: I've adjusted the levels. —David Levy 17:10, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Article criteria check out, new enough, long enough, not seeing evidence of copyvio, image licensing looks suitable. But some specifics within the article:
I'm content now with both the condition of the article and the suitability of the hook, so passing this nomination. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)