Template:Did you know nominations/Crocodylus novaeguineae
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 19:46, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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Crocodylus novaeguineae
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... that adult New Guinea crocodiles (pictured) have been observed carrying newly hatched young from the nest to open water?
- ALT1:... that New Guinea crocodiles (pictured) are agile enough to catch bats, flying birds and leaping fish?
- Reviewed: Miku Nishimoto-Neubert
5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nominated at 08:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC).
- No Article's nominator began expansion 22OCT13 at 2,985 bytes to 9,545 bytes which is a factor of 3.41 times. However, the article (without markup, and not including references, infobox, etc.), has increased from 249 words, 1,493 characters of text to 1,209 words, roughly 7,250 characters of text. This is a factor of 4.86 times. Knowing Cwmhiraeth's work, this article will continue to grow. While close, it isn't "at least fivefold" expansion. Yes Prose is long enough in that it's more than 1,500 characters. Yes Prose is neutral. Yes Prose does not appear to be a copyvio issue. Yes and No While the source states: "both males and females have been reported to assist opening the nest and moving the hatchlings to the water" which matches the hook...BUT...the article, putatively supported by footnote 1, adds extra material stating "carrying them delicately in their mouths" which does not appear in the source cited. This inconsistency, while the hook is accurate, does not correspond to the article's full statement.--ColonelHenry (talk) 22:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have provided an extra reference for the hook statement. As to the length of the article, for DYK purposes I believe it is measured by the "page size" tool which can be installed in one's toolbox. Using this, the article has been expanded from 1172 bytes to 6909 bytes which is nearly a sixfold expansion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK rules are that the article needs to 5x expansion in prose characters, not bytes or words or anything else. According to the DYKcheck tool, which counts prose characters, the current total of 6909 prose characters is expanded at least 5x since October 22. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have provided an extra reference for the hook statement. As to the length of the article, for DYK purposes I believe it is measured by the "page size" tool which can be installed in one's toolbox. Using this, the article has been expanded from 1172 bytes to 6909 bytes which is nearly a sixfold expansion. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
New reviewer needed, as article has met 5x expansion requirement. Other issues raised above should be checked as part of the review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
This article is well written and well sourced; a lot of the material is taken from the book Crocodiles and Alligators, which I cannot access, but based on the rest of the citations I have every reason to give the page creator the benefit of the doubt. All the policy requirements are met. The creator has met the QPQ requirement and the image is under a creative commons license. I have added an alternative hook. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:42, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- ALT1 is the superior hook, but the hook fact needs a footnote at the end of the corresponding sentence in the article. Should there be a semicolon?--PFHLai (talk) 23:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- I am happy with ALT1 and have added an inline citation and struck the original hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)