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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Count Lasher

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  • ... that Bob Marley covered mento artist Count Lasher, who sang about an old lady offering strains of cannabis with names like "Tomtom Callback", "Granny Crack Cracks" and "Deadman Get-up"?

Created by Hillbillyholiday81 (talk). Self nominated at 21:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC).

  • Though the article is new and long enough, there are two problems. One is that not every paragraph is cited as of yet. The other one is that the hook is deceptive. It makes it seem as if Bob Marley covered Lasher's song about the old lady. As far as I'm able to tell from the article, that's not the case.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 14:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that mento artist Count Lasher recorded a song about an old lady offering strains of cannabis with names like "Tomtom Callback", "Granny Crack Cracks" or "Deadman Get-up", and was covered by Bob Marley?
Thanks AmberRock, I will look at the referencing later. Hillbillyholiday talk 15:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
ALT1 suffers from the same problem as the original hook. Might want to change the angle.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 15:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Could you drop one of those songs from the hook, in order to cut back a bit on the length?—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 17:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I added a ref for the place of birth, I'm not too sure much else needs citing in the article now. Hillbillyholiday talk 18:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT3 is acceptable, but I would like some more sources. The discography, for starters, and you spend some time disecting the song "Mango Time." I'd like to see that sourced in some way as well.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 14:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The source for the Mango Time lyrics is, well, the song itself. Is it ok just to ref the song title? They are printed on Michael Garnice's website (the one with comic sans!) - Garnice's site is also the place where you can find the fullest discography for Lasher, where should the reftag go in this case? Cheers. Hillbillyholiday talk 17:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
  • You don't necessarily need to source the lyrics, but you do need to source the conclusions that are drawn based on the lyrics you have provided. As for the discography: you can give inline refs at every individual record, or you can draw up an opening line and place one inline ref there.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 20:49, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Count Lasher is a storyteller and social-commentator as well as an entertainer. Colorful local dialect is also employed liberally throughout Lasher's work, with themes and issues easily recognizable to the island's inhabitants.
I would argue that these are facts backed up by the sources and examples below. That mango, cannabis and relationships were things identified with by the local population should go without saying really. Thanks for your continued input, I found a good new extra source whilst digging. I added a sentence ref for the discography, and one to put mento musicians in context as social-commentators, I hope its ok now. Hillbillyholiday talk 22:32, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Length, date, hook, and QPQ all ok. The discography now has a cite but the link points to the wrong subpage of the site (it goes to Bob Marley and teh Wailer's page instead of Lasher's page). SpinningSpark 17:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Good spot, Spinningspark. Have amended the discography reference. -- Hillbillyholiday talk 18:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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