Template:Did you know nominations/Coelopa pilipes
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:28, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
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Coelopa pilipes
- ... that Coelopa pilipes fly populations can maintain temperatures of 40 °C (104 °F) in beach kelp, even during the winter?
- ALT1:... that Coelopa pilipes are flies mainly found on beaches in Eastern Europe?
- ALT2:... that the mating behaviors of Coelopa pilipes flies change depending on available seaweed species?
- ALT3:... that Coelopa pilipes flies only lay their eggs on washed-up kelp?
Created by Steelwull (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 1 November 2019 (UTC).
- Comment @Steelwull: Whilst I'm not planning to review this article (I shall leave that for someone else!), I would ask you to help the reviewer by citing the actual page numbers within very long references (580 pages!!), using the
{{rp}}template for reference page numbers for each time you cite that work. For example, I gave up looking for that part of the source that supportsCoelopa have been shown to maintain a 40 °C (104 °F) environment despite snow and ice on the beach they inhabit.
and it is sufficiently vaguely-worded that it might mean they remain inside rotting vegetation (which stays warm) or that they can magically fly out into the snow, whilst still maintaining an incredibly high temperature in their bodies. This is going to need better clarification. AndC. pilipes lives in washed-up kelp on beaches before adulthood and can recycle decaying kelp by consuming it.
also sounds odd - almost as if they're doing the beach authorities a favour by recycling litter for them, rather than actually utilising decaying kelp as a food source, which I'm sure is precisely what you intended!
- In addition, quite a few other phrases bother me. By way of example,
"Other reported locations for C. pilipes residence include North Africa[8] and Australia, a more significant location."
seems rather confusing. Could this be better worded?Females lay eggs singly, as does Drosophila melanogaster.
- what is the relevance of this statement? Why mention Drosophila at all? I would also point out that Fucus and Laminaria aren't seaweed varieties - they're genera, containing a number of species, so I'd avoid the term 'varieties' if you can. Overall, I feel a subtle reworking of the English will be needed right through this article if it is to proceed. Sorry to be a grinch - but these things can all be fixed with a little bit of tender reworking of sentence construction and careful consideration of what you're trying to say. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment @Steelwull: Whilst I'm not planning to review this article (I shall leave that for someone else!), I would ask you to help the reviewer by citing the actual page numbers within very long references (580 pages!!), using the
- @Nick Moyes: Thank you for the comments. I've gone in and added page numbers for the longer sources, and will definitely continue to work on wording throughout the next few days. Steelwull (talk) 23:18, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Article is new and long enough. Nominator is QPQ exempt. No pings on Earwigs. Hooks are short enough for DYK and cited in the article. I personally think ALT0 and ALT2 are the most interesting. Morgan695 (talk) 05:08, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote ALT0, but I think it's far more interesting to state what you write in the article, and what's written in the source:- ALT0a: ... that Coelopa pilipes fly populations can maintain temperatures of 40 °C (104 °F) in beach kelp, even in areas covered with snow and ice? Yoninah (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Thank you for the review and message! I'm good with using ALT0a, I think it adds good detail from the article that makes the fact more interesting. Thanks again for the help!
