Template:Did you know nominations/Clint Grant
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 12:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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Clint Grant
[edit]- ... that a newspaper reproduction of a photograph by Clint Grant is believed to be the last thing John F. Kennedy ever signed?
Improved to Good Article status by ATinySliver (talk). Self-nominated at 01:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC).
- GA promotion date confirmed, length, tone, sourcing, and all the other usual stuff are fine. The cited source is slightly uncertain of the hook fact, ending that the newspaper is "Of extreme rarity on this day and quite possibly, a last – if not the last - thing JFK signed.", but I feel that "believed" in the hooks sufficiently covers this uncertainty. (ETA: No QPQ required as user has just one previous DYK.) - Dravecky (talk) 09:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- The editor sending to the queue is certainly entitled to change "believed to be" to "may be" if s/he feels it appropriate. My thanks. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 15:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- There is some close paraphrasing in both sentences and sentence order from the source:
- Source: Mr. Grant was born in Nashville, Tenn., and attended Vanderbilt University until the hard economic times of the Great Depression required his family to move to Dallas, where his father was recruited to be head of the art department at The News. In Texas, he landed a job with The News' photo department in 1941 but was drafted into the Army one month before he could start.
- Article: Born in Nashville, Tennessee, Grant attended Vanderbilt University. The economic turmoil of the Great Depression forced his family to move from Nashville to Dallas. There, his father was asked to lead the Art Department at the Morning News. Grant himself got a job with the Photo Department but, one month before he was to report to work, he was drafted into the United States Army and served during World War II in Europe, where he never used a camera.
- Source: Mr. Grant operated a photo studio until a staff position opened at the newspaper in 1949.
- Article: He managed a photo studio until a position at the newspaper opened up in 1949.
- Source: He retired from The News in 1986 but continued to work in semi-retirement until 1997.
- Article: He officially retired from The Dallas Morning News in 1986, but continued to work in semi-retirement.
- Yoninah (talk) 01:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- That should do it. Please let me know if there's anything moe. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 05:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- The editor sending to the queue is certainly entitled to change "believed to be" to "may be" if s/he feels it appropriate. My thanks. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 15:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have returned this from prep 2 as I can't confirm that the photo in question was taken by Clint Grant. Gatoclass (talk) 15:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: The 656x1000px reproduction shows the photo credit "Dallas News Staff Photo by Clint Grant". I'll see if I can find additional sources. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 17:34, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Image #6 here (listed as #7 in the slideshow) shows the photo by-line a bit blurry, but with some clarity; here is a clearer version. Still working on it. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 18:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have yet to find discussion in text; nevertheless, I believe the photographic evidence to be convincing. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 21:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well it's pretty darned hard to see but I think it will probably do. You will need to add a cite to the best version of the image you have though. Gatoclass (talk) 01:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Done. I've added an invisible comment since direct-linking is almost certainly a COPYVIO. Cheers! —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 🖖 01:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well it's pretty darned hard to see but I think it will probably do. You will need to add a cite to the best version of the image you have though. Gatoclass (talk) 01:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)