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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Claus Leininger

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Musiktheater im Revier
Musiktheater im Revier

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 13 August 2018 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough, long enough and within policy regarding neutrality, sourcing and close paraphrasing. The image is licensed and a good illustration. Volcanoguy 02:59, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Returned from prep for further work on the hook per discussion at WT:DYK. Perhaps something hooky could be written about the subject himself. Yoninah (talk) 22:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Would the original hook work if "Ruhr-Scala" was pipe-linked as "Ruhr-Scala"? I just checked the article and unfortunately there's not really much else that's hook-worthy from the content, so we might need to work on this hook. @Gerda Arendt: Some questions about the article: in the lede section, is "profil" intentional or a typo of "profile"? Also, is there no information about what happened between his retirement and death? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
He made a house at an impossible culture-less place (Ruhr) a success (La Scala), - I thought it was a brief summary. Yes, a typo, and don't mention the most unusual, contemporary opera, because we had it already, - some wordsmith, please. - No reason to say anything about his retirement if he possible simply enjoyed it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • I think the hook would work if you explained it. I added something to the article along those lines: Alluding to La Scala, the house was nicknamed Ruhr-Scala at the time, reflecting its cultural offerings in what was essentially an industrial zone. If that was sourced somehow, we could have:
  • ALT2: ... that during Claus Leininger's tenure as general manager of the Musiktheater im Revier (pictured), the theatre was nicknamed "Ruhr-Scala" for upgrading the cultural offerings of what was essentially an industrial zone? Yoninah (talk) 09:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
That's a much better hook, since the explanation adds to the hookiness (i.e. the contrasts between culture and being an industrial zone). To be honest, I had concerns about the original hook when promoting it, but had good faith that perhaps others could find it interesting. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: This was pulled by Fram in a now archived DYK talk page discussion about issues with the article. I did what Fram should have done and that is to reopen the discussion and now I will re-add it back to the nominations page. SL93 (talk) 15:48, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
(ec) The thread is at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 153#Two hooks removed from Prep 5 (probably the next queue to hit the main page), - the concern being that the explanation is not sourced in the article. My 2ct: it's only an explanation for the hook without context, explaining what the links to Ruhr and La Scala provide anyway. I offered an ALT, to no avail so far:
ALT3: ... that when Claus Leininger was general manager of the Musiktheater im Revier (pictured), he won international opera singers to perform in the Ruhr district?
Revier is a colloquial term for the Ruhr district along the Ruhr river, btw. The name of the theatre is a program. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
ps: best to have it pictured, to show that it isn't the typical opera house ;) - The first hook was approved in August, - it's perhaps the nom with the longest time between approval and appearance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
... only that the history is short, 1959 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Length, Date, QPQ, and Earwigs check. Foreign language refs (for ALT4) are accepted AGF and image is also freely licensed. Gerda, we just need a cite for the Productions section. Best, Mifter Public (talk) 04:21, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I took as I found it on de, added the IMDb ref, all others seem mirrors, there's WorldCat also, with less detail. It's so long ago. If that's not good enough we can drop the section until after DYK, it doesn't count anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- With the additional refs (I added in the WorldCat ref as it mentions him as director and IMDB is not generally considered a RS), ALT4 is approved. Best, Mifter (talk) 19:19, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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