Template:Did you know nominations/Chuffer Dandridge

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The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 03:12, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Chuffer Dandridge

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... that the Shakespearean actor-manager Chuffer Dandridge, appearing regularly on Wake Up to Wogan, was actually two civil servants?

ALT1:... that Chuffer Dandridge kept complaining to Terry Wogan that he was owed a white fiver from his time in repertory theatre?
Reviewed: Storm Eva and 2015 Great Britain and Ireland floods

5x expanded by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC).

Comment: I think it would be appropriate for this nomination to hit the front page when Terry Wogan's funeral takes place, though I'm not sure when that is yet.

ALT2: ... that the fictional Shakespearean actor-manager Chuffer Dandridge, a regular on Wake Up to Wogan, was the creation of two civil servants?

Although barely over the prose length limit, everything else in this article is fine -cites, newness, DYK check clean. ALT1 adds a couple of words for clarity. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Maury, please do not approve your own hook. As for this article: it's generally good to go as per Maury's review, but I do find two things lacking: 1) it doesn't denote anywhere when this Chuffer character appeared. When was it a thing, actually? 2) The word "Shakespearean" from the hook is not stated anywhere in the article.—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 13:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

@Amberrock: "Shakespearean" is in Wogan's "Mustn't Grumble" biography on p80 - now in the article. (I heard "Shakespearean actor manager" so many times on his show it just lodged in my brain). As for when it happened - well, that's a tricky one as the character was non-notable as Wikipedia defines it for years and years before being documented. I can't find any reliable source documenting him before 2008, and it would have stopped when Wake Up To Wogan was retired the year after that. So I don't think I can do any more than "the 2000s". I certainly recall Paul Walters collapsing in a fit of giggles to Chuffer's emails, and he died in 2006, but of course I'm not a reliable source. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Ritchie333, thank you for sourcing 'Shakespearean'! As for the date: if we can't find a reliable source for when the Chuffer character featured on the show - and we don't seem to be able to - then we should at least mention when the show itself was aired. In the true spirit of being bold, I've edited that into the article, along with a source for that. I now request someone else takes a look and sends this DYK forward - hopefully.—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 14:12, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't think we'll be able to find a source, it was just something that grew organically to the point that it was a specific character (along with Janet and John) mentioned by several Wogan obituaries. As a sign of the times, the very first (now deleted) version of this article was created by one of the writers back in February 2006 .... it survived until October before being deleted via AfD. The old revision is still available to admins and I can tell you if somebody created the text there today, it would have been wiped per G3 / A7 without hesitation! Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that background info! So, let's stick with the solution I came up with. And let a new reviewer see whether this is worthy now.—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 15:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

: Approved with ALT2 hook, New enough at time of nomination, all lengths OK, no copyvio, lengths appropriately long enough (barely) or short enough, stable, neutral, etc.; good to go. Montanabw^(talk) 19:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)