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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by SL93 (talk) 05:13, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Chris Pérez and Shelly Lares

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Created by AJona1992 (talk). Self nominated at 10:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC).

  • Perez article was fivefold expanded, while the article about Laras is new. They are both long enough, but you to review another nomination as this is a two-article hook. I'll read through Perez' article later, but in Laras' article I find the lead too long, as most of the information in the second paragraph of the lead is just repetition of the prose and too specific to be in the lead. Could you try to move that paragraph to the body of the article? Mentoz86 (talk) 05:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I think Perez' article needs a complete copy-edit, also try to wikilink everything once in the lead and the first time after the lead. As in the other article the lead is too detailed and should be trimmed, there is even some info in the lead that isn't in the body of the article. Mentoz86 (talk) 05:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
I have edited the lead and reviewed a second DYK. Best, jonatalk to me 00:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, but you've only adressed one of my concerns. The lead in Lares' article still needs to be shortened, and the article about Perez needs to be copyedited. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:14, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Perez' article doesn't need to be copyedited, it is readable. Lares lead doesn't need to be shortened either. Best, jonatalk to me 15:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Needs another pair of eyes, too check if these articles are good enough for the main page. Of the issues mentioned above, my biggest concern is that the article about Perez needs a copyedit. Mentoz86 (talk) 16:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Just a couple of points as I'm not undertaking the review of this and I've only had a quick skim through the Perez article. I have to agree it needs a thorough copyedit. Just a couple of examples: "In 1988, Pérez co-written three songs for Shelly's debut album"; "One of the brothers were thrown so hard that..." - I'm also concerned that there is far too much reliance on Perez's own book rather than independent sources. Also, I may be missing it but I don't see the hook referenced immediately beside the sentence either? SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • There's no existing DYK rule that suggest a copy-edit to be mandatory, the article's prose is readable. Secondly, I've added more sources to claims by his book. Thirdly, you didn't read the article and only skimmed through it because the hook is located in the first subsection of the article and continuing in the second subsection. Best, jonatalk to me 17:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Try WP:DYKSG#D13, which you can translate into: "As long as both the two editors involved in the review of this nomination thinks it needs a copy-edit before it hits the main page, the nomination wont be approved." Mentoz86 (talk) 17:19, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Let me see what I can do. Best, jonatalk to me 17:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) * I had seen that you had added some additional sources on 10 and 11 June; however, even with those additions, I still feel there is too much reliance on a primary source. I had found where the hook was but what I was actually trying to draw to your attention in the above comment was that the DYK rules require an inline citation immediately adjacent to the sentence containing it. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Well I can't find any online sources but I do have offline sources (books about Selena) which I could add later in the week. I just did a minor copy-edit in the lead, early career and Los Dinos career sections. I also went ahead and added the source to the claim. Best, jonatalk to me 18:22, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • It's been a full week since the above, and I don't see that those offline sources have been added. Can you please let us know when they have been, so a further review can be done? Thanks. (I've fixed the DYKnompage and DYKmake templates, both of which hadn't been set up correctly.) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:41, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Please check article if anything else needs to be done. Best, jonatalk to me 20:30, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Articles need to be checked for sourcing and to be sure the requested copyedit was sufficient and the intro sections are appropriate lengths. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
    • 7 weeks after the first review and 3 weeks after the second review, the nominator has not done any effort to copyedit the article (only our other concerns has been adressed). Did you know is supposed to promote Wikipedia's newest content, and I think the nominator has used up his time and this nomination should be failed. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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