Template:Did you know nominations/Cheese soup

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 10:51, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Cheese soup

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Reindeer cheese soup

~~... that the cheese in cheese soup (pictured) adds both flavor and nutritional value?~~

Comment: 384 characters (including the list) were copied into this article from List of cheese soups, but this new article has been expanded over 5x in prose compared to the amount of copied text.
Reviewed: The Royal Bank of Scotland £5 note

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:10, 1 July 2016 (UTC).

New enough, long enough. NA, sweet or smoked paprika powder? Think carefully. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Hook verified, etc. Images are properly licensed, but User:Northamerica1000, I'd remove File:Broccoli cheese soup.jpg: it's not pretty and you got enough pixies already. No plagiarism found. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I like the image, particularly the contrast of dark in the stove area and light inside the pot of soup. Almost mysterious. The coloration of the soup is what it is, since it's a broc & cheese soup. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:36, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
I have replaced the previous image in place here with the present one. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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Just a quick note Northamerica1000; are you sure you want the reference [34], to Myrtle Beach Restaurant News? First, entering the domain name redirects to another page, beckybillingsley.com; and second, the other page at Becky's website has a "file not found" error. I'd recommend simply removing that reference, as you have another reference already for that statement. Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium, now featuring BB-8 (talk) 23:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

I removed that source (diff); thanks for the input. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Returned from prep for further work, per discussion at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Per that discussion, here are two alternative hooks using other sourced statements in the article.184.147.117.244 (talk) 19:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

ALT1~~... that cheese soup is traditional in America, Colombia, Switzerland and Tibet?~~

ALT2~~... that chefs use special cooking techniques to prevent cheese soup from burning?~~

Re ALT2, I think the concern is not only burning but curdling, which suggests to me another option (that may need article edits but which is true, as I understand:

ALT3: ... that preparing cheese requires curdling, but in preparing cheese soup a bain-marie is often used to help avoid curdling?

I'm suggesting it as an option because curdling is usually thought of as bad, but it can and is used to make things too. I'll drop a note on the nominator's talk page to let her / him know that this has been pulled from prep. EdChem (talk) 13:16, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi EdChem, the article only mentions burning or scorching.184.147.117.244 (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

@184.147.117.244: I didn't check, I just suggested something which I know is accurate. A search on cheese soup and curdling will confirm the issue and point to a suitable reference, I believe. If the submitter wants to use ALT3, s/he can make changes. EdChem (talk) 07:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I have struck ALT3 because source searches haven't yielded anything yet to qualify this. I have added some new alts below. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

ALT3... that a bain-marie is sometimes used to prevent cheese soup (example pictured) from burning?

ALT4~~... that cheese soup (example pictured) can be prepared using hard, soft and processed cheeses, which adds both flavor and nutritional value?~~

ALT5~~... that in Switzerland, cheese soup (example pictured) is referred to as kassuppe, and is a specialty dish in Central Switzerland?~~

Review needed for the ALTs presented above. I like ALT5. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I really like ALT3; it has just the right amount of hookiness (in the burning) and intrigue (in the bain-marie; I had to look that up to discover that I actually knew what it was by its mundane name!). ALT5 is also fine, if the nominator really prefers it. I struck the earlier hooks and ALT4, which is just another take on the original that led to it's being pulled. Offline ALT3 hook ref AGF and cited inline; ALT5 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Drmies; no close paraphrasing found. ALT3 or ALT5 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: do you want to strike one of those Switzerlands from ALT5, like:
ALT5a: ... that cheese soup (example pictured), referred to as kassuppe, is a specialty dish in Central Switzerland? Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

That works. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:42, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Great. Now I like ALT5a too :) Yoninah (talk) 22:59, 25 July 2016 (UTC)