Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Chaplin, Sr.

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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 07:04, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Charles Chaplin, Sr.

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... that Charles Chaplin, Sr. (pictured) was a popular entertainer long before his famous son?

Comment: This isn't *directly* cited in the article, but the fact that he was popular in the 1890s definitely is, and that is obviously long before Charlie became famous...I think it's a good hook so hope it will be acceptable, but if not I will offer something else. My first DYK nomination.

Created by Lobo512 (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

The article meets all the requirements and the images are in public domain. I am willing to approve the hook because it makes sense to me. When I nominated Tyrannasorus rex for DYK, I was confused to learn that, despite it being a beetle (an insect), the article had to explicitly state that it had six legs and wings. As if there was ever an insect with more or less than six legs, or a true beetle without wings! If another reviewer nevertheless finds the hook problematic, I suggest the following alternatives: Surtsicna (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Charlie Chaplin's father, Charles Chaplin, Sr. (pictured), was also a popular entertainer?
ALT2: ... that the entertainer Charles Chaplin, Sr. (pictured) was responsible for kick-starting his son's career in entertainment?
- Given that you made a suggestion which doesn't wikilink to Charlie using his name, would it be acceptable for me to tweak the hook to:

"... that Charles Chaplin, Sr. (pictured) was a popular entertainer long before his famous son?" I wanted to do this originally but wasn't sure if it would be okay. --Lobo (talk) 21:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC) -- Later: Now changed to this option

Yes, of course. You could also pipe the link to say "his famous son and namesake" for additional clarity, but "his famous son" is surely clear enough. Surtsicna (talk) 21:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes I think it's clear enough, seeing as "Charles Chaplin" is so similar to "Charlie Chaplin", it speaks for itself. I definitely think it is catchier that way. Thanks for looking at the article and your help. --Lobo (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)