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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:18, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Cecil Newton, Sr.

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Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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  • Article is currently at AFD, which will need to be resolved before this goes on DYK, if it even should. Considering that almost all of the article is discussing a scandal involving he and his son, and that this is a BLP, I don't think it should. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 17:22, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Update: the AFD closed as no consensus. My opinion stands, for the reason I gave above. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 17:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I have no problem with it not appearing if that is consensus, but feel the article should be given full consideration by others. It is possible you are biased due to encountering this while it was at AFD.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I actually found the AFD after going to do a review here, not the other way around; I don't see how that has anything to do with the substance of my comment up there. Obviously my opinion is my own and others are free to feel differently. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Not only has this cleared AFD, but the article as it currently exists checks out in other respects (length, dates, sources, plagiarism checks, etc.). I don't like the original hook due to its emphasis on a person other than the article's topic. I suggest the following alt hook (thoroughly supported by citations to reliable sources):
  • ALT1: ... that Cecil Newton, Sr. attended two NFL training camps without making the team, but both of his sons have played in the NFL?
I believe this will be ready to go, with the ALT1 hook, when TonyTheTiger completes a QPQ review. --Orlady (talk) 22:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what QPQ means, but I have reviewed a nomination.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Adding the tickmark! "QPQ" means "quid pro quo," which is Latin loosely translated as "tit for tat." --Orlady (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
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