Template:Did you know nominations/Catatonia (band)
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 10:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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Catatonia (band)
[edit]... that the success of Welsh band Catatonia's album International Velvet came on the back of the breakup of the relationship between Cerys Matthews (pictured) and Mark Roberts?
- Reviewed: How to Clone a Mammoth
- Comment: 5x expansion from 3404 to 17274.
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 21:57, 2 April 2016 (UTC).
- Expansion is new enough and long enough. I know this article represents a lot of research and work--nice job with it, great image! Copyvio detector didn't find any inappropriate direct quoting. Much of the information, including the information in the hook, comes from an offline book, which looks like it contains the information cited (I did a few keyword searches).
- Quotes about the band are not exact. The "overlooked" quote from the Washington Post article doesn't say the word "overlooked" and the Guardian article doesn't say "poetic", though it does describe a song as "poetry."
- I'm not sure if the hook has broad appeal. Perhaps you can keep the gist of the current hook and clarify that the breakup was between the two main songwriters, or that their relationship was long-term, as a causal reader won't know their history. Or maybe another aspect of the band is better hook-material. What do you think? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've struck that hook as when I wrote it, it was correct from the sources. But having expanded the article some more since I nominated the article, the breakup took place during the process of touring for the previous album. I've suggested a couple more below. I've changed the "poetic" bit to reflect "poetry" instead, and fixed the url for the Washington Post citation - it'd some how ended up linking to a summary instead of the full article. The quote itself is a few lines into the first paragraph. Miyagawa (talk) 17:59, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Alt1:... that one of the early members of the Welsh band Catatonia, was Dafydd Ieuan, later of the Super Furry Animals?
- Alt2:... that Catatonia had intended to include an anti-Warner Bros. Records song on their triple-platinum selling album International Velvet?
- Alt3:... that Welsh band Catatonia feared being dropped by their record label as they were working on their album International Velvet, which went on to sell more than 900,000 copies in the UK alone?
- The ALT hooks are supported by sources and short enough. I like ALT 2 but I think any one of them would work well. I don't have any other issues with the nomination.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)