Template:Did you know nominations/Carrie Goldberg
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 11:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Carrie Goldberg
[edit]- ... that Carrie Goldberg, who is representing two of Harvey Weinstein's alleged sexual-abuse victims, once served as a case manager for Holocaust victims? Source: "Wired UK and MM.LaFleur." ()
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Created/expanded by Belltower2017 (talk). nominated by JC7V-constructive zone 19:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC) at 20:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC).
- @JC7V7DC5768: I will review this nomination. epicgenius (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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Overall: epicgenius (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Originally posted above:
- Although saying "alleged" in the article is fine, I would not recommend saying "disgraced mogul Harvey Weinstein". Instead I would briefly explain who Weinstein did and what the women are suing him for. A link to Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations would be nice.
- There is a disparity issue here, and the proposed hook is also not neutral. In the article it states "alleged victims", but this hook says definitively that they were two victims. Also, the hook suggests that these are the only 2 victims, even though we know there were more accusers. Finally, "abuse" is a loaded term without any context (i.e. sexual abuse), so this should be clarified. I would suggest this, which is neutral and emphasizes that these are two of the accusers: epicgenius (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Carrie Goldberg, who is representing two of Harvey Weinstein's alleged sexual-abuse victims, once served as a case manager for Holocaust victims?
- ALT2: ... that Carrie Goldberg, who is representing two women accusing Harvey Weinstein of sexual abuse, once served as a case manager for Holocaust victims?
- (nominator comment), I took your suggestion and changed my DYK to your ALT1 suggested phrasing. Thank you for your feedback. JC7V-constructive zone 17:22, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK. The "disgraced mogul" issue still needs to be fixed, as that's not neutral. After you fix that, the article will be good to go. epicgenius (talk) 17:38, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed, took out 'disgrace mogul' and replaced it with 'former film producer' JC7V-constructive zone 18:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Looks good to go now. epicgenius (talk) 18:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- (nominator comment), I took your suggestion and changed my DYK to your ALT1 suggested phrasing. Thank you for your feedback. JC7V-constructive zone 17:22, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- It should be noted that this nomination was probably made erroneously. JC7V7DC5768 did not create this article; Belltower2017 did. Credit where credit is due. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- @WikiDan61: This should be fixed now. The original author, Belltower2017, is now listed in the {{DYKmake}} credits. epicgenius (talk) 19:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I just linked Carrie Goldberg to another Wikipedia article. Thanks for pointing it out. JC7V-constructive zone 22:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- @JC7V7DC5768: Thank you. And the birthdate? Yoninah (talk) 22:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Carrie's birthdate or the article's creation date?? Carrie was born (according to the article) in 1977. JC7V-constructive zone 00:13, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- @JC7V7DC5768: Carrie's birthdate, you have it as 1977. You also have a middle initial from somewhere. I noticed someone added a Twitter source to the birthdate I put in a different article. Where did you get this information? Yoninah (talk) 00:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- I am only the nominator not the author of the article. Her 1977 birthdate is not sourced and I haven't even found that on Twitter. JC7V-constructive zone 00:57, 2 August 2018 (UTC)