Template:Did you know nominations/Carolina Benedicks-Bruce

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 13:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Carolina Benedicks-Bruce

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Carolina Benedicks-Bruce with L'obsède

... ~~that Carolina Benedicks-Bruce (pictured) made a yawning and worked on a seduced?~~

ALT1:... ~~that Carolina Benedicks-Bruce (pictured) made busts of several noted men?~~
Reviewed: Lixia Zhang
Comment: Article split of from William Blair Bruce to a new draft. Moved from draft to main on 28 August 2015. Also providing a more closely cropped version of the pic if that is better for the small size pic. Plus 'pinging' @Montanabw: since they had expressed an interest in maybe doing this review. w.carter-Talk 20:26, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Carolina Benedicks-Bruce with L'obsède

Created by W.carter (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 28 August 2015 (UTC).

Length and age acceptable, no obvious copyright/plagiarism issues, all images are either PD or have acceptable licencing. QPQ checks out. The first hook is oddly worded, the second is much better. The hook itself is cited to a page in the Swedish language, AGF that it says what it is supposed to say. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 06:39, 29 August 2015 (UTC).

I have pulled this from prep 4 as neither of the hooks are appropriate IMO. The first hook is nonsensical, while the second is uninteresting - there is nothing at all unusual about a sculptor making "busts of several noted men" - so a new hook will be required. Gatoclass (talk) 10:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

ALT2:... that sculptor Carolina Benedicks-Bruce (pictured) was called a Swedish "Mrs. Pankhurst"? Fuebaey (talk) 02:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, I've been away. Also apologies for the hooks, they were lame attempts to play with words, ALT2 that was graciously suggested by Fuebaey sounds good. I will also add another just to give the promoter something to choose from.

ALT3:... ~~that sculptor Carolina Benedicks-Bruce (pictured) helped establishing the Swedish Women's Voluntary Defence Service?~~ Best, w.carter-Talk 10:11, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I like ALT3, but don't have time to confirm it right now. If someone hasn't done so in the meantime, I will try to verify it tomorrow. Gatoclass (talk) 18:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! The Swedish for "Swedish Women's Voluntary Defence Service" is lottakår or lottaförbund. :) w.carter-Talk 18:27, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am unable to verify either ALT2 or ALT3 because I don't understand Swedish. A Swedish speaker will have to verify one or both of these hooks. Gatoclass (talk) 07:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Is there any special reason why the AGF tick, that is supposed to be used when sources are offline or in a language other than English, can not be used here? I've had a lot of DYKs with Swedish sources where it has been used, the DYK passed and promoted. New rules? WP tired of articles about Swedish things? Blood moon last night (at least in Sweden)? Anyway, I'm 'pinging' @BabbaQ: to see if they can help us out here. w.carter-Talk 08:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

W.carter, I could AGF that "lottakar" means "Swedish Womens Voluntary Defence Service" but then I'd be doing that solely on the say-so of the nominator and that doesn't strike me as a workable approach to reviewing. So I think I'm entitled to confirmation from a knowledgeable third party. I have already requested a check of the above alts from Wikiproject Sweden, so hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer. Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

No, problem, of course you can ask for confirmation, I've just never had such a thorough review before. w.carter-Talk 12:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

New reviewer request to check hooks. Fuebaey (talk) 18:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Aww, don't bother with it. I'm just as happy to strike this nomination. I only made it because of a request from another editor (who turned out to not be interested anyway). The article is not worth the hassle. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 07:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The "Mrs Pankhurst" hook is probably still viable - we just need someone who can read Swedish to confirm it. Gatoclass (talk) 10:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

On reflection, since nobody from Wikiproject Sweden has showed up to confirm either hook, I am going to AGF on ALT2 as I can see the phrase "en svenske mrs Pankhurst!" in the source which even I can translate as "a Swedish Mrs. Pankhurst". Gatoclass (talk) 11:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)