Template:Did you know nominations/Carmela Teoli
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The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 04:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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Carmela Teoli
[edit]* ... that in 1912, a 14-year-old mill worker named Carmela Teoli helped raise the standard of living for half a million people in New England?
:* ALT1:... that 14-year-old Carmela Teoli helped end the 1912 Lawrence textile strike?
:* ALT2:... that the testimony of 14-year-old Carmela Teoli spurred labor reforms in Massachusetts and helped raise the standard of living for thousands of textile workers and their families?
- Reviewed: No. 4 Elementary Flying Training School RAAF
- Comment: This might be good for Women's History Month (March). Also, the citation for the first hook is subscription-only; I'll be happy to email the article PDF, just tell me where to send it.
Created by Rosekelleher (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC).
- Here is a public domain image of a girl working as a doffer in Massachusetts in 1911, the same year Carmela Teoli was scalped:
Adrienne Pagnette, French girl working as a doffer. Winchendon, Mass. Lewis Hine 1911
- Here is a public domain image of a girl working as a doffer in Massachusetts in 1911, the same year Carmela Teoli was scalped:
A moving story. Indeed, worthy of Women's History Month. New article, long enough. DYK posted by due date. Neutral biography, well sourced. Earwig's Copyvio Detector: violation unlikely. QPQ done. Both hooks verified. @Rosekelleher: [1] Nice article. [2] On the phrase, "the average life expectancy was 39" in the main article; please check if we need round 39.6 to 40 and reword that to "the average life expectancy of mill workers..."; [3] I feel the hook could be made even more hooky. Teoli's testimony to the US Congress in March 1912 was moving and influential. As a child worker, she joined the strike "because I didn’t get enough to eat at home". Her testimony not only helped raise the wages of nearly half a million people, she triggered labor reforms. @Yoninah: what do you think, interesting for WH Month? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 22:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)- [4] "the recruiter offered to forge a birth certificate showing that Carmela was old enough to work" is accurate, but leaves one wondering how old was old enough. Please consider "the recruiter offered to forge a birth certificate for a bribe of $4, showing that Carmela was 14, old enough to work". May be useful for an ALT hook, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 22:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing. I've made your suggested edits. I am not married to either hook, I was mostly just trying to avoid making it too grisly. I'll try to think of something hookier. Back later. Rosekelleher (talk) 23:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've added an ALT. Anyone who's feeling inspired, please feel free to add more. I don't know the exact number of mill workers who got raises. Some sources say 250K; the Globe article says 125K: "Besides the 27,000 operatives of Lawrence, practically all textile workers in New England have received an increase in wages as a result of this strike. Conservative figures place the number thus affected at 125,000. By the ordinary ratio accepted in figuring vital statistics, this means that more than 500,000 people have had their standard of living raised." Rosekelleher (talk) 13:50, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Rosekelleher: I saw the same range of direct and indirect estimates, and some higher than 500,000. ALT2 is more interesting. Another suggestion:- ALT3: ... that the 1912 testimony of 14-year-old child laborer Carmela Teoli spurred labor reforms in Massachusetts, helped settle a strike and raise wages for numerous working men and women? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- I like that ALT3 includes a link to child labor, fwiw. Right to the point. Rosekelleher (talk) 18:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Approved with ALT3 . Montanabw(talk) 05:36, 21 February 2016 (UTC)