Template:Did you know nominations/Cajus Julius Caesar
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The result was: backstabbed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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Cajus Julius Caesar
... that Cajus Julius Caesar studied German forests before turning to politics?Source: either the Vierhaus ref or the similar [1]: "1969 bis 1971 Forstlehre Landesforstschule Arnsberg Fachhochschulreife; 1971 bis 1974 Revierförsteranwärter; Diplom-Forstingenieur", then "1998 bis 2005, 2007 bis 2009 und seit 2011 Bundestagsabgeordneter der CDU für den Wahlkreis Lippe I "- ALT1:
... that Cajus Julius Caesar shares his name with his father, son, and grandson?[2]: "Sohn und Enkel des gelernten Försters tragen den gleichen Namen." [3]: "Schon sein Vater trug den antiken Vornamen, logisch, dass Caesar auch seinen Sohn so nannte. Cajus Julius Junior ist Pilot bei einer großen, deutschen Fluggesellschaft." - ALT2:
... that Cajus Julius Caesar lost his seat in parliament when his party won an election?Source: [4] - ALT3:
... that Cajus Julius Caesar won a golden fir tree award?[5] "Die Schutzgemeinschaft Deutscher Wald (SDW) hat dem lippischen CDU-Bundestagsabgeordneten und Diplom-Forstingeneur Cajus Caesar die "Goldene Tanne" verliehen." - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur Phillip
- Comment: Lots of name-based fun to be had here (I'm sure there are better hooks than mine). Happy to translate sources on request.
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Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC).
@Kusma: An interesting and unexpected article, worth more than a few chuckles. New enough, long enough, well cited and no apparent copyvio problems. Just a nitpick, the Krebbers and Fuhrmann sources need a publisher or work, not just the author. Otherwise this looks good to go. Personal preference is ALT or ALT2. Alternatively, if you shorten the name to just 'Caesar', this could become an excellent April 1 DYK. Constantine ✍ 18:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review @Constantine! I've added the names of the news sites, good catch. I did consider using just "Caesar", but then people might expect some random Harry Caesar, not someone who shares the exact same name (up to spelling variations; I/J are the same and C/G somewhat interchangeable in classical Latin) with the famous Gaius Julius Caesar. I'm happy both with April Fools or a normal "quirky" slot. —Kusma (talk) 20:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
I realise that, but I don't know how many people know that I/J are interchangeable in Latin, or that Julius Caesar was actually named Gaius. I don't know if the rules would allow piping the name to the more 'familiar' form, which is why I recommended simply the name 'Caesar'. Leaving it to the closer whether it is possible to do so. My suggestion would for now be either a variant of ALT for April 1: '... that Caesar studied German forests before turning to politics?' or the present ALT2 as a 'regular' DYK. Anyhow, good to go. Constantine ✍ 20:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Happy with either, and curious to hear what the April 1 experts think. —Kusma (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- ticking variant of ALT1 for April Fools! Excellent hook :D theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 20:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron, isn't the April Fools' variant of the original (ALT0) hook, not ALT1? BlueMoonset (talk) 16:53, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- yyep, my mistake theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 03:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron, isn't the April Fools' variant of the original (ALT0) hook, not ALT1? BlueMoonset (talk) 16:53, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Happy with either, and curious to hear what the April 1 experts think. —Kusma (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review @Constantine! I've added the names of the news sites, good catch. I did consider using just "Caesar", but then people might expect some random Harry Caesar, not someone who shares the exact same name (up to spelling variations; I/J are the same and C/G somewhat interchangeable in classical Latin) with the famous Gaius Julius Caesar. I'm happy both with April Fools or a normal "quirky" slot. —Kusma (talk) 20:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- For clarity, this is the approved hook:
- variant of ALT0 for April Fools' Day: ... that Caesar studied German forests before turning to politics?
- I have struck all the non-AFD hooks to avoid confusion. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 14 January 2022 (UTC)