Template:Did you know nominations/Byron Christopher

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The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 21:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Byron Christopher

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... that "Armageddon-like blood-and-guts crime" reporter Byron Christopher (pictured) has been subject to more search warrants "than the average drug-dealer in Detroit"?

Created/expanded by Ferox Seneca (talk). Self nom at 01:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Long enough, new enough, reads well, appears to cover the topic well, and is adequately referenced. Creator appears to have only 4 DYK credits and therefore not to need to do a quid pro quo review. The image looks good at the small size and has been released unconditionally via OTRS. I found one sequence of words almost unchanged from the source - source reads "bombing, raping, enslaving, kidnapping and executing", article reads "bombing, raping, enslaving, kidnapping, and execution". This needs to be quoted or further changed. The hook fact is interesting, although the article offers others; but I can't verify it because I am not permitted to view the link and I can't find the article or the quote itself online anywhere else, including Highbeam and the Campbellton Tribune's own site, which doesn't seem to have an archive. (I did find "The Running Man" online, but that doesn't help in this instance.) Since the URL appears to be a picture, is it possible it's the wrong URL? Otherwise, please provide enough contextual text here to verify the hook, such as whether that's Christopher's own phrasing or McNally's. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:41, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

The link to the article on Christopher from the Campbellton Tribune is a readable image/scan of that article hosted by a third-party website. A friend of mine has also told me that he cannot access the link from his iphone, but I can read it normally from my desktop. I don't have an explanation for why some computers cannot read the image, other than that it could be an Apple/PC issue.

That Christopher has been subject to half a dozen search warrants, and that this constitutes "more search warrants than the average drug dealer in Detroit" is cited in the article as an assertion by Christopher. I don't believe that this comparison is intended to be a statistically demonstrable relationship, and I left the phrase in quotation marks to imply that it was an opinion and not a fact, but if there is a problem with how the hook is phrased then I can rephrase it and/or come up with another hook.Ferox Seneca (talk) 03:31, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes I find it difficult to judge whether or not a string of words constitutes "close paraphrasing", since I am not sure that a specific definition of the amount of allowable words in order exists. If you believe that a list of five words in the same order as the source is too many, I will change the order of the words.Ferox Seneca (talk) 07:51, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Accepting that change as sufficient - tastes differ, it no longer looks as if it should be in quotes, and I didn't find any other close paraphrasing. After getting "access denied" repeatedly I was able to open the McNally article after I had opened it via the "October 10th article" link in the main Last Link on the Left article; you might want to add "linked at Bayens, January 12, 2009" if that can be made to fit with the referencing style, because I think that may be the trick. Since it is indeed a quote from Christopher himself, I've said so in the article, and you might want to add "in his own words" to the hook to clarify who's being quoted. However, it's there in the source and the reader will find the info about who said it in the article itself. So, good to go :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2012 (UTC)