Template:Did you know nominations/Brewer (John Updike)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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Brewer (John Updike)
- ... that Brewer, the fictional Pennsylvania city in John Updike's Rabbit novels, reflects change in American society throughout the second half of the 20th century?
ALT1:... that Brewer, the fictional Pennsylvania city in John Updike's Rabbit novels, symbolizes a typical middle-class American town, as well as American capitalism and commercial materialism?
- Reviewed: Carnegie Building (Atlanta)
- Comment: PLEASE NOTE that this article is currently nominated for deletion; the 5x expansion is the result of edits and additions I made to the article in response to that AFD. So obviously, this DYK cannot be approved until after that AFD discussion is resolved, but I wanted to nominate it now to ensure that I don't miss the deadline. If the AFD results in the article's deletion, I'll obviously withdraw this DYK nomination. If it does not and the article is kept, then I believe the DYK can advance at that time...
5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC).
I've tweaked the wording of both ALT0 and ALT1, but all in all I think ALT0 is a more concise and compelling idea. I got "four decades" from the time span 1959–1999 as stated in the article. I'd be happy to approve it, I'd just like some more feedback from the nominator. "Four decades" is more concise than "from 1959 to the 1980s and beyond" while still giving a sense of the sweep of time. On the other hand, "four decades" is somewhat ambiguous—it could be a span of "40 years", but it could mean "decades" in the cultural sense, which would mean five decades are marked within the span between 1959 and 1999 (count 'em: 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s). —BLZ · talk 08:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Full review needed; only the hooks have been discussed so far. Reviewer can weigh in on the "decades" issue. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Apologies Brandt Luke Zorn, I missed your comment until BlueMoonset just pinged this above. I'm open to whatever wording you think is best to address this issue. Or maybe we should make it even more general, something simply like "over multiple decades" or something like that? — Hunter Kahn 04:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Approving ALT0 – No worries Hunter Kahn! I neglected to ping earlier and should have. With fresh eyes, I think what your earlier sentence captured, and mine missed, was anchoring the hook in a specific time period. So I've revised "four decades" to "the second half of the 20th century", and "America" to "American society". —BLZ · talk 23:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- BLZ, there is still no sign of an actual full review for this nomination: checks for newness, expansion, hook and article neutrality and sourcing, close paraphrasing/copyvio, etc. If you have done this full review, then please specify what you've checked; if all you've done is the hooks, then the rest of the review is still needed, either by you or by someone else. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: D'oh! Don't know how that slipped my mind. Here's the article review:
- Expanded fivefold
(expansion diff; from 1099 B of readable prose to 5622 B of readable prose); sufficient length , per last point; neutral and citation-based ; plagiarism-free (Earwig gives 0.0% chance of plagiarism); and QPQ completed . —BLZ · talk 03:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- Reinstating BLZ's tick per above review. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)