Template:Did you know nominations/Bras Basah MRT station
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 05:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
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Bras Basah MRT station, Stadium MRT station
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... that the designs of the Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations by WOHA were commissioned through the Marina line Architectural Design Competition?
Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:06, 27 January 2021 (UTC).
- Full review to follow, but perhaps more clearer hooks could be proposed here? The current hook doesn't really seem clear to non-Singaporeans since non-Singaporeans may not know what the "Marina Line Architectural Design Competition" is. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that the designs of the Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations by WOHA were commissioned through the Marina line Architectural Design Competition, an open international competition jointly held by the Singapore Land Transport Authority (LTA) and the Singapore Institute of Architects?
- That's really really long, outside the 200 character requirement for hooks. Maybe try highlighting something unusual or interesting about the stations instead? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe I will try shortening it:
ALT2: ... that the Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations' design by WOHA were commissioned through an open international architectural competition organised by the Singapore Land Transport Authority (LTA) and the Singapore Institute of Architects?
- Alternatively I can try shortening it further and saying the following instead:
ALT3: ... that the Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations were designed by WOHA?
- I don't really have any alternative DYK; these two happened to have intriguing designs.--ZKang123 (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Both of them seem really Singapore-centric and the ALT2 is too long per WP:DYKSG#C3. I am willing to allow ALT3 as a possible "click to know more hook" but only if there are no remaining viable options. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- NLH5 asked me off-wiki to look at this nomination. Maybe we can focus on aspects of the design, but we don't need the hook to only be a mention of who the designer was. How about these? Epicgenius (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
ALT4: ... that Singapore's Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations, designed by WOHA, both received an Award for International Architecture from the Australian Institute of Architects?ALT5: ... that the Bras Basah and Stadium MRT stations, designed by WOHA following a competition, both received numerous international architectural awards?
- If these don't work, we can go with separate hooks for each station: Epicgenius (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
ALTB1: ... that the Bras Basah MRT station, provisionally named "Museum" before its construction, was renamed for wet rice?ALTB2: ... that at 35 metres (115 ft) below ground level, the Bras Basah MRT station was the deepest Singapore MRT station when built?- ALTS1: ... that the architect of Singapore's Stadium MRT station, forced to revise the design, simply rotated the original plan on its side?
- ALTS2: ... that to create the artwork for Singapore's Stadium MRT station, a Brazilian model performed moves over a trampoline?
- NLH5 asked me off-wiki to look at this nomination. Maybe we can focus on aspects of the design, but we don't need the hook to only be a mention of who the designer was. How about these? Epicgenius (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Both of them seem really Singapore-centric and the ALT2 is too long per WP:DYKSG#C3. I am willing to allow ALT3 as a possible "click to know more hook" but only if there are no remaining viable options. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe I will try shortening it:
- That's really really long, outside the 200 character requirement for hooks. Maybe try highlighting something unusual or interesting about the stations instead? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Bras Basah MRT Station
- While the article would meet most of the DYK requirements for length, sourcing, hook verification and interest, the article was promoted to GA status in August 2020 and thus regrettably was nominated too late to qualify for DYK. As the nominator has no prior DYK credits, I would be willing to IAR here, but that would probably require a DYK discussion for approval. I note that the nominator indicated on Discord that they would have preferred a double hook; but due to the lateness concern along with how the individual suggestions appear to be far more eye-catching than the double hook proposals, this request will have to be declined for now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:04, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Stadium MRT Station
- The article was promoted to GA status the day of this nomination, and both ALTS1 and ALTS2 are cited inline and verified in the sources. No QPQ is necessary for a first-time nominator. As both S1 and S2 are in my opinion excellent hooks, the choice of what hook to promote will be left to the promoter (I've made minor changes to both by mentioning that they're in Singapore). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:04, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've temporarily pulled the article from prep as the promoted hook (ALT4) was not approved due to one of the articles being DYK ineligible. If there is still a desire to promote a hook using that angle, I am offering a single article version below (again, the choice of the hook is left to the promoter, although the nom has indicated a preference for ALTS1):
- Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:57, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- It is always possible to modify one of the double hooks (ALT4 or ALT5) for use by setting the Bras Basah MRT Station as a non-bold link, if that makes it more effective by mentioning two stations rather than one and not too long. In that case, though, I'd place the sole bold hook, Stadium MRT station, so it's first of the two stations listed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)