Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Bone Schiess

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The result was: promoted by Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Betty Bone Schiess

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... that Betty Bone Schiess is one of the Philadelphia Eleven, leaders in the movement to allow the ordination of women in the Episcopal Church?

Reviewed: Samira Wiley

5x expanded by Gobonobo (talk), Slashme (talk). Nominated by Gobonobo (talk) at 01:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC).

Nice expansion, QPQ done. Hook is a bit confusing, was she one of the leaders to allow ordination of women or she herself was ordinated by some one? —Vensatry _(ping) 06:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

She was both one of the first women in the church to be ordained and a leader in the movement to allow ordination for women. I've added an alt below that might be clearer. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 10:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Betty Bone Schiess is one of the Philadelphia Eleven, the first female priests ordained by the Episcopal Church?

I support the alt-hook: more understandable than the original, even though it loses the aspect of leadership, which is a bit unfortunate. --Slashme (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

for ALT1. I cannot read the book. —Vensatry _(ping) 05:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The linked source for that statement in the article is this Google Books page. Seems OK to me. --Slashme (talk) 07:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

for ALT1: The existing refs didn't support the hook fact very well: I've added a reference which clearly states the information used in ALT1. It also mentions the date of the ordination, July 29, 1974. "Finding Aid for Ann Robb Smith Papers, 1971 - 2004" (PDF). Columbia University Libraries. Retrieved 9 May 2014.
One could potentially create a hook about her leadership in filing suit with the EEOC: I've ensured that there's a good cited source for that if anyone wants to use it. Schneiderman, Eric. "Resolution J591-2009: Paying tribute to the life and accomplishments of Constance Cook, former New York State Assemblywoman". New York State Senate. Retrieved 9 May 2014. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)