Template:Did you know nominations/Beaver drop
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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 12:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
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Beaver drop
- ... that in 1948 the Idaho Department of Fish and Game parachuted beavers into Central Idaho? Source: transport beavers from the McCall and Payette Lake region of southwestern Idaho to the Chamberlain Basin, in central Idaho’s Sawtooth Mountain Range
- ALT1: ... that 76 beavers parachuted into Central Idaho in 1948? Source: In the fall of 1948 76 live beavers were dropped with only one casualty.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carrbridge Packhorse Bridge
Created by Lightburst (talk). Self-nominated at 21:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Beaver drop; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - See below.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - It seems rather silly to me, but this technically does not meet WP:DYK criterion 3b about citation placement. This can be trivially fixed by adding "76" to the second sentence of the WP:LEAD and citing https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/why-beavers-were-parachuted-into-the-idaho-wilderness. That way, all facts in ALT1—the number of beavers, the parachuting, the year it happened, and the location—are cited properly in the same place.
- Interesting:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article created on 25 February, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I think the article falls on the right side of WP:Close paraphrasing (though with less of a margin than I would prefer). There are no obvious neutrality issues. QPQ has been done. ALT1 is great, so let's go with that one. Some comments on the content:
- I have done some minor copyediting.
decided to move 76 beavers because they help maintain wetlands, reduce erosion, and help create habitat for birds and fish.
– well, no. According to the source, they decided to move them because they were causing problems for residents, and they decided that moving them was better than killing them because of the listed reasons. The list is also bordering on WP:Close paraphrasing, so I would rephrase it.Time (magazine) article
– it should either say "Time magazine article" or simply "Time article", but no parentheses.- I would include Time's 1939 estimate of the return on investment per beaver: $300 return on an $8 investment.
fitted together like a suitcase
– including the word "hinge" somewhere in the explanation would go a long way towards clarifying this.- This is obviously not a DYK requirement, but a diagram of the boxes would be really helpful.
with eight crates of beavers a pilot and a conservation officer.
– missing comma.In the following days 76 beavers were also parachuted into meadows.
– also?One beaver forced it's way [...] the beaver then jumped to it's death
– its.
Ping Lightburst. TompaDompa (talk) 23:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TompaDompa: Thank you so much for the great review! And thank you for the help! I am going to number the concerns so that I can keep track
- 3b criteria
I moved the citation to the lead second sentence along with 76
- Decided to move 76 beavers:
I have rewritten the section. Thank you for pointing out the issue
- Time Magazine
I removed the parethesis
- Time's 1939 estimate
I added the information about $ benefit
- fitted together like a suitcase
the article here mentions how the 2" elastic bands acted like hinges but I will make that clearer in the article by adding hinged and moving the sentence about the rubber bands right after.
- Diagram of the boxes -
I agree it would be nice - I have one and will have to see if I can add it without violating any piolicy
- with eight crates of beavers...
I added the comma
- In the following days 76 beavers...
The actual text of the source is "August 14, 1948, as eight crates of beavers were loaded into a twin-engine Beechcraft Travel Air, alongside a pilot and a conservation officer. Over the next few days, 76 beavers parachuted into wilderness meadows."
source - Jumped to its death
I made the correction
- Lightburst (talk) 01:00, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- On number 8, my point was that I don't understand what the "also" is doing in the sentence. It seems like that word should be removed. At any rate, ALT1 is ready. TompaDompa (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- done, thank you for the review! Lightburst (talk) 21:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- On number 8, my point was that I don't understand what the "also" is doing in the sentence. It seems like that word should be removed. At any rate, ALT1 is ready. TompaDompa (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2023 (UTC)